As do the Liberal Remoaners Bruce!
Current Affairs EU In or Out
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Richa d Branson is the only people who favour the EU - i.e. Big business
In my job I speak to independent retailers on a daily basis. They employee between 2 and 50ish staff.
Every one I've asked about Brexit was against it.
Yes but that may well be but 17 million voted OUT!
Gouldy
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What does 'out' actually mean Joey ???????
jal123
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He doesn't know. He's been asked dozens of times and usually responds with something about Greece?
Gouldy
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Or a democratic vote involving 17m people.. or something about sovereignty being given back to a political system with an unelected upper chamber and a hereditary monarchy...
Gwladysstreetlad
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That we leave the European Union and the single market as almost every single leading remainer said we would?
Gouldy
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But Joey has said previously that we should aim to be a part of the Single Market in regards to our negotiation talks?
Gwladysstreetlad
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We won't be. At least I don't see how we can be unless we see a complete backtrack (not impossible) but I think it's to late in the day for that. "Out" from my point of view meant we leave warts and all. The single market and the EU go hand in hand, you can't really have one without the other.
Gouldy
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Yes you can: generally we don't consider Norway to a part of the 'EU' (because they're not a member) - yet they're part of the EEA and thus have access to the Single Market.
So you consider Norway, Lichtenstein etc to be in the EU? Interesting...
Gwladysstreetlad
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In all but name yes they are. They may as well be at any rate. We'll no doubt end up with a Norway type of arrangement we're we can say we aren't technically part of the EU but we follow pretty much all its regulations and keep the freedom of movement that go with being in the single market. Its basically just being a member without the perks.
Armel
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I also think the U.K. will be out of the single market, unless there is a complete backtrack but seems unlikely. Would be quite a spectacle. The EU agencies are already leaving, lots of countries are campaigning the City (just for Belgium as off today there are three insurers: Japanese one, an Australian one, and a Lloyds subsidiary)... All this effort for no action would seem strange.
Also seems to be the perception of everyone here. Diplomats are getting annoyed because nobody seems to know what Brexit entails, lots of time has already been lost so a good deal seems very unlikely. Task groups are preparing the companies for hard Brexit.
Gouldy
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Norway:
1. They pay a similar fee to what we do currently (or at least the difference is not enough to herald a win for vote leave)
2. They accept freedom of movement
3. They have zero influence in legislation that affects the Single Market
But.. control... sovereignty... democratic vote... 17 million... out means out...
Gouldy
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I do not think this current (propped up) Govt. will aim/ nor dare try to aim to pass a 'hard Brexit' which to me at the very least means no single market access
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