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Don't think it was disrespectful at all, and probably not meant for the public like his comments of it could take ten years to sort a trade deal with the EU.

As the highest serving civil service in the EU he might be right for all we know.
He is history now he probably jumped before he was pushed again a civil servant who knows best - he has been replaced
Let's get on with it predicating ten years was so stupid!
 
Here's something for you to think about.

Say now you work for a company, and you want to do a bit of negotiating with one of your main suppliers in regards to pricing.

Are you going to...
  • Try to get along with them, reason with them and seem like you're effectively "one of them"?
  • Or, go in all guns blazing with someone that doesn't even believe in what they're negotiating with?
Allow common sense to prevail.
Yes, but we need a sensible time limit not ten years!
 
He was telling the team to act how civil servants should, and question the MP's if need be.

Nothing wrong with that.

1. He didn't need to - they should know at all times how to act.

2. The role of civil servants is to advise.
The classic case is the introduction of Job Seekers' Allowance (JSA). The timetable for the computer-based introduction of the benefit was set by Alastair Darling. He was advised that if it was introduced on the dsate he wanted, it would crash the DSS mainframe system, taking all the other computed-based payment systems down. He was advised by those at the working end of the system (those working in local offices) that his timetable was unrealistic and not feasible to be able to convert every clerical case to computer-based. He was advised by EDS that they could not guarantee that it would come in on the date demanded by him as a fully-functioning system. The weight of advice was such that he put back the conversion date, and gave out some 'diplomatic-sidestep' kind of reason for doing so. So JSA came in on a drip basis, with clerical cases being worked on up to two years after the computer programme went 'live'. That is how the role of top civil servants works in a lot of scenarios - advisory based on the knowledge of others.
 
But I thought Trump was our friend?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/27/brex...unity-to-steal-trade-from-uk-wilbur-ross.html

Wilbur Ross, President-elect Donald Trump's pick for Commerce secretary, has urged other countries to exploit the "God-given opportunity" to steal business from the U.K., according to a report in The Times.

Ross urged Cypriot financiers to strike during this "period of confusion" in Britain to draw businesses away from the City. He made the remarks before the U.S. election and his selection by the Trump.

"I recommend that Cyprus should adopt and immediately announce even more liberal financial service policies than it already has so that it can try to take advantage of the inevitable relocations that will occur during the period of confusion," Ross said, according to The Times.

He further added that Britain's departure from the European Union was a "God-given opportunity" for the City's financial rivals, especially Frankfurt and Dublin in particular.

If confirmed as Commerce secretary, Ross would be among those responsible for negotiating a free trade deal with the U.K. But his comments have sparked speculation that the U.S. may seek to exploit the uncertainty created by Brexit in order to lure business away from London.


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Britain's Labour Party called the comments a form of "statutory warning" that other economies were seeking to take advantage of U.K.'s exit from the EU, The Times reported.

"Wilbur Ross's comments are a stark reminder that the trade deals Britain will agree in future will not depend on goodwill from our partners, but on their own shrewd political and economic calculations," Barry Gardiner, the shadow International Trade secretary told The Times.

"Theresa May's government has failed to articulate a coherent vision of what kind of economy Brexit Britain will be. This makes us weak and vulnerable in the eyes of others."

Ross has also referred to Brexit as the "most expensive divorce proceeding in the history of the world."

The 79-year-old private equity billionaire has endorsed the "Trump trade doctrine," which stipulates that any new trade must reduce the U.S. trade deficit, strengthen manufacturing and boost growth. Britain has a trade surplus with the U.S.
 
Here's something for you to think about.

Say now you work for a company, and you want to do a bit of negotiating with one of your main suppliers in regards to pricing.

Are you going to...
  • Try to get along with them, reason with them and seem like you're effectively "one of them"?
  • Or, go in all guns blazing with someone that doesn't even believe in what they're negotiating with?
Allow common sense to prevail.

Its the difference between the public sector, and the private sector - public sector we have years private sector time is money its this bureaucratic nonsense we need to get away from!
The sooner May rids the comfy civil servants who try to run our country imo she should of put a top business man in to be our head negotiator someone like Digby Jones an avid brexiteer!
 
Its the difference between the public sector, and the private sector - public sector we have years private sector time is money its this bureaucratic nonsense we need to get away from!
The sooner May rids the comfy civil servants who try to run our country imo she should of put a top business man in to be our head negotiator someone like Digby Jones an avid brexiteer!

What business has Digby Jones ran? Indeed, what even is his business education?
 
What business has Digby Jones ran? Indeed, what even is his business education?
Here we go Brucie a google special you asked for it here it is -

Digby Jones was born into business. Some of his earliest memories are of life in a busy corner shop where he lived with his mother and father and older sister. The shop was, he says, “within a spanner throw of the Austin” in Alvechurch just outside Birmingham. He remembers fondly pressing his nose against the shop window watching the new Minis leave the factory destined for showrooms across the UK and the world. It was here he learnt the first rudiments of business – important values that were never to leave him.

He discovered the importance of good customer care at an early age and the concept of profit and loss, the very essence of good business management became an everyday reality for the young boy. And when, in the mid-sixties, the supermarkets began to move to the area, he also learned about the vulnerability of business.

At the age of 10 his parents sold the shop and his father became a full-time student, living off a grant, before he finally qualified as a Probation Officer. His mother worked as an Assistant Physiotherapist at the local hospital. It was at this period of his life when Digby first became aware of two very different aspects of the public sector.

The young Digby showed early promise. He attended Alvechurch Primary School from where he won a scholarship to Bromsgrove School, a Public School for Boys. He enjoyed his school life and worked hard. He played rugby and hockey for the school and ultimately became Head Boy. Ambitious and full of life he was not averse to the occasional prank, but this cost him dearly a few days before he was due to leave school when he was expelled for “streaking around the quadrangle” for a bet.

For much of his childhood money was scarce, but the Jones children had a good life with “much love” and “lots of laughter and fun”. This, he says, made him appreciate the importance of family values as well as good money management.

Life in the corner shop also made him very aware of community. Where he lived almost everyone relied on "the Austin" in some way. On payday, families would come into the shop and spend their hard earned cash. When times were hard they spent less, which taught him how this affected everyone, not least his own family. During his three years with the Royal Navy Digby learnt about leadership, teamwork and the importance of constant communication.

His graduation from University College London was followed by 20 years with Edge & Ellison, a Birmingham-based firm of lawyers, where he worked his way up from Articled Clerk to Senior Partner. During these years he was intimately involved in all aspects of business from running the firm “as a business” to recruiting and managing several hundred employees. It was here that he developed a vision of business and its role in society, and began to believe firmly in socially inclusive wealth creation.

In 2000 he joined the CBI and was able to put some of these ideas into action. During his six and a half years as Director General he became known in the public arena especially for his candid, forthright attitude in his many media appearances.

He campaigned relentlessly on a range of issues including the move from traditional manufacturing of commodities to value-added, innovative products and services. He also lobbied against protectionism protesting that “it is a scourge which may well find short term popularity but inhibits growth, reduces wealth and oppresses the weak”.

His views on the Public Sector remain a subject of great debate. He has stressed that, "if fundamental reform does not take place, from working practices right through to pension provision, we will end up with an ever-diminishing private sector trying to pay for, and provide pensions for, an ever increasing and inefficient, unproductive, self-interested public sector".

In 2005 he was knighted for his services to business and became Sir Digby Jones in the Queen’s New Years Honours List.

When he left the CBI in 2006 he spent the next 12 months in the private sector as adviser to Deloitte and Barclays Capital, held a variety of non-executive board roles, and was the unpaid UK Skills Envoy. In this role he became outraged about the levels of adult illiteracy and innumeracy in the UK, and made the point that we cannot hope to have a safer and healthier society if people lack self-respect or aspiration.

In July 2007 he was appointed Minister of State for UK Trade & Investment and became a life peer taking the title, Digby, Lord Jones of Birmingham Kb. Forthright and, as ever, loyal to British business he spent the next 15 months “doing it in a different way”. He did not join the party of government and without the ambition to progress in politics he concentrated on the business of promoting Britain across the world, travelling to 31 countries in 45 overseas visits.

Now, in addition to his role as an active crossbencher in the House of Lords he serves as

  • Chairman of Triumph Motorcycles Ltd,
  • Non-Executive Deputy Chairman of the Unipart Expert Practices (UEP) Division,
  • Corporate Ambassador to Aon Risk Solutions,
  • Senior Adviser of Babcock International Group plc,
  • Non-executive Chairman of Thatchers Cider Ltd,
  • Corporate Adviser to JCB,
  • Chairman of the Advisory Board of Argentex LLP,
  • Chairman of Cell Therapy Ltd,
  • Chairman of On-Logistics Ltd,
  • Non-executive Director of Leicester Tigers plc,
  • Senior Adviser to Harvey Nash plc,
  • Business Adviser to Barberry Developments Ltd,
  • Non-executive Director of Leicester Tigers plc,
  • Corporate Ambassador to Ravenscroft Securities of Guernsey,
  • Chairman of the Governors of Stratford-upon-Avon College.
  • Non-Executive Chairman of G-Labs Ltd
He advises in a number of other paid and unpaid roles, fulfilling his vision of promoting socially inclusive wealth creation. Digby travels regularly across the UK and overseas, runs his own business and his fulfilment is complete when Leicester Tigers and Aston Villa win their matches. He has many plans for the decades to come.

About Lord Jones
Website by Simon Pighills
 
The sooner May rids the comfy civil servants who try to run our country imo she should of put a top business man in to be our head negotiator someone like Digby Jones an avid brexiteer!

You've been watching too much 'Yes Minister' and 'Yes, Prime Minister' lately, Joey!!! :D ;)
 
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