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There's likely to be further court action against the Government's plans to leave the single market.

The Government is being warned this week that a judicial review is being sought in the event of a decision to leave the single market. Why? Because there is no mandate for it, no referendum (mandatory or advisory) nor was it in the Conservative Manifesto.

The idea behind the court action will be to force the government to seek parliamentary approval for leaving the single market, something they are not likely to achieve regardless of any separate vote for Brexit/Article 50.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Burnham was advocating the return to interventionist Govt which worked brilliantly last time round....

I think that the idea that losing single market access could be the catalyst for the rebirth of industrialisation is absolutely bonkers tbh.
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Strange thing is though that when problems present themselves sometimes opportunities come to the fore and I think that is what he was on about. It focuses the mind........
 
Scouse said:
The 13 years when European money was heavily invested into the city? The 13 years that saw a great transformation in the city centre and heavy investment in the dock lands? The 13 years that saw massive growth in the city's universities? That 13 years?
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So everythings ok then.........
 
peteblue said:
No, I wish us to grow the Industrial side as well.....
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It's not something that can be switched on like a tap though. Most of the manufacturing that's surviving in the west is either highly skilled manufacturing, or services off the back of manufacturing, such as with the likes of Rolls Royce and ARM. It goes back again to the importance of education. If people are expecting to leave school with no qualifications and get a job in a factory somewhere, then I'm not sure they will have much luck.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It's not something that can be switched on like a tap though. Most of the manufacturing that's surviving in the west is either highly skilled manufacturing, or services off the back of manufacturing, such as with the likes of Rolls Royce and ARM. It goes back again to the importance of education. If people are expecting to leave school with no qualifications and get a job in a factory somewhere, then I'm not sure they will have much luck.
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Those days have gone. But we do have a great many high tech companies that are only limited by our ambitions......
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It's not something that can be switched on like a tap though. Most of the manufacturing that's surviving in the west is either highly skilled manufacturing, or services off the back of manufacturing, such as with the likes of Rolls Royce and ARM. It goes back again to the importance of education. If people are expecting to leave school with no qualifications and get a job in a factory somewhere, then I'm not sure they will have much luck.
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We visited this subject in early October:

The Esk said:
Three major indicators of capacity constraints are currently present in the UK economy. Low unemployment rates, a chronic skills shortage particularly in traditional manufacturing and engineering skills, and supplier lead times which are increasing way beyond their long term averages.

Bank of England reckons our excess manufacturing capacity equates to no more than 1% of GDP currently.
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peteblue said:
Those days have gone. But we do have a great many high tech companies that are only limited by our ambitions......
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Yep. My little town used to be dominated, work wise, by a power station, a nail factory, the docks, and a paper mill.

All gone, as employers anyrate. (The paper mill now makes plastic bags, mainly labour free)

But, tucked away in the small industrial parks are a myriad of small businesses. Some mega high tech, design, 3D printers, Vaping, business services, all sorts.

We will be fine.
 
peteblue said:
Strange thing is though that when problems present themselves sometimes opportunities come to the fore and I think that is what he was on about. It focuses the mind........
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His point was specific, he was saying that outside of the single market the North could somehow grow its industrial base, aided by Govt subsidy. Only our productivity is already the worst amongst the leading economies and historically interventionist policies don't improve that. I think the idea is nonsense tbh.
 
The Esk said:
There's likely to be further court action against the Government's plans to leave the single market.

The Government is being warned this week that a judicial review is being sought in the event of a decision to leave the single market. Why? Because there is no mandate for it, no referendum (mandatory or advisory) nor was it in the Conservative Manifesto.

The idea behind the court action will be to force the government to seek parliamentary approval for leaving the single market, something they are not likely to achieve regardless of any separate vote for Brexit/Article 50.
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Dream on that will never get through!
 
The Esk said:
Why not Joey? Article 127 of the Lisbon Treaty - you'd better start familiarising yourself with it :)
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it wont exist when we sign article 50 again dream on -
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how can you use the Lisbon treaty when the country voted out they had a vote in parliment this week OUT
not binding as yet but almost inevitable you remoaners can moan on!
 
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