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[tommye]

Beautifully done.

 

[Oddball]

Or maybe everyone's physiology and relative risk for smoking related diseases and cancer is different ?

Way to go Epstein, genius! You`d better give the Roy Castle cancer appeal office a ring and tell them everyones` metabolism is different before they waste another 100 billion on nothing, they probably haven`t thought of that angle and the cherry on the cake is you`ll get all the pubs re-opened too.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Way to go Epstein, genius! You`d better give the Roy Castle cancer appeal office a ring and tell them everyones` metabolism is different before they waste another 100 billion on nothing, they probably haven`t thought of that angle and the cherry on the cake is you`ll get all the pubs re-opened too.

That’s a valid point!

 

[Rita_Poon]

Yeah it really is.

Btw I do love a bit of oat milk and all that but this form of 'protest' isn't just 'disruptive', it's downright stupid.

Spoilt student brats who need a taste of real life.

a taste of some brass knuckles...

 

[Kiwi]

Way to go Epstein, genius! You`d better give the Roy Castle cancer appeal office a ring and tell them everyones` metabolism is different before they waste another 100 billion on nothing, they probably haven`t thought of that angle and the cherry on the cake is you`ll get all the pubs re-opened too.

What a disturbed little internet warrior you are.
I think you meant Einstein unless you're in the habit of calling others sex offenders

 

[slipstream86]

What a disturbed little internet warrior you are.
I think you meant Einstein unless you're in the habit of calling others sex offenders

Ahh yes Albert Epstein! The world renown intellectual, known most famously for his work in the fields of special and general pedophility.

 

[Abertonian]

While I noted that these climate protesters are idiots (on another thread) I will concede that this is a good take (and thread) on the situation from Mr. I-can-make-noise-like-a-mofo Albini.

Just stop oil. Protesting whilst wearing polyester clothing and dyed hair.

 

[orchard]

Just stop oil. Protesting whilst wearing polyester clothing and dyed hair.

tbf what about stopping oil, yanno, keeping it in the ground ? Besides, if they turned up in really expensive bespoke woollen garments that would be an industrialist gotcha too.

 

[Abertonian]

tbf what about stopping oil, yanno, keeping it in the ground ? Besides, if they turned up in really expensive bespoke woollen garments that would be an industrialist gotcha too.

The problem is not that we need to stop extracting oil and gas, its that protest movements are largely pushed by the likes of Rodger Hallam who seek anarchy and disruption of society and for whom big energy is a target that represents environmental risk but also establishment and finance. Energy is the part we are probably best prepared to replace and yet the conversation doesn't tend to be focussed much on all the other derivatives that come from O&G extraction - and its a sizeable percentage.

Plenty of protests happening where people are blocking roads. These groups don't seem to be asking questions about how we replace asphalt or even demonstrate a general level of awareness about where the road surface comes from. If we are to achieve our net zero ambitions (and commitments) then the conversation will need to turn to questions of textiles, cosmetics, road surfaces, medication and the tens of thousands of things not energy related that rely on hydrocarbons even if it seems glib to people focussing on the easy headlines.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The problem is not that we need to stop extracting oil and gas, its that protest movements are largely pushed by the likes of Rodger Hallam who seek anarchy and disruption of society and for whom big energy is a target that represents environmental risk but also establishment and finance. Energy is the part we are probably best prepared to replace and yet the conversation doesn't tend to be focussed much on all the other derivatives that come from O&G extraction - and its a sizeable percentage.

Plenty of protests happening where people are blocking roads. These groups don't seem to be asking questions about how we replace asphalt or even demonstrate a general level of awareness about where the road surface comes from. If we are to achieve our net zero ambitions (and commitments) then the conversation will need to turn to questions of textiles, cosmetics, road surfaces, medication and the tens of thousands of things not energy related that rely on hydrocarbons even if it seems glib to people focussing on the easy headlines.

Theres no appetite for it, and as people face another financial battering to the point of having to go hungry it'll be to easy to go "balls to nature I simply don't give a toss!". Crying about the pandas is all well and good, but human beings cant get to see a Dr, struggle to heat their homes, facing possible retirement in their early 70's if they're lucky, the public have been bombarded with the harm caused by modern living and theres no one voting to go back a couple of centuries in living standards. As a species we excel in waste and inefficiency, so long as someone or something else foots the bill, keep the music playing...

 

[WA Toffee]

He's a silly man, and about 20 years too late to debate the science.
The discussion now is what we are doing about it

 

[Abertonian]

Theres no appetite for it, and as people face another financial battering to the point of having to go hungry it'll be to easy to go "balls to nature I simply don't give a toss!". Crying about the pandas is all well and good, but human beings cant get to see a Dr, struggle to heat their homes, facing possible retirement in their early 70's if they're lucky, the public have been bombarded with the harm caused by modern living and theres no one voting to go back a couple of centuries in living standards. As a species we excel in waste and inefficiency, so long as someone or something else foots the bill, keep the music playing...

No appetite for it from the public at large but also for a large percentage of those protesting as well i'd wager.

 

[orchard]

 

[Goat]

I didnt see a point.

 

[orchard]

The problem is not that we need to stop extracting oil and gas, its that protest movements are largely pushed by the likes of Rodger Hallam who seek anarchy and disruption of society and for whom big energy is a target that represents environmental risk but also establishment and finance. Energy is the part we are probably best prepared to replace and yet the conversation doesn't tend to be focussed much on all the other derivatives that come from O&G extraction - and its a sizeable percentage.

Plenty of protests happening where people are blocking roads. These groups don't seem to be asking questions about how we replace asphalt or even demonstrate a general level of awareness about where the road surface comes from. If we are to achieve our net zero ambitions (and commitments) then the conversation will need to turn to questions of textiles, cosmetics, road surfaces, medication and the tens of thousands of things not energy related that rely on hydrocarbons even if it seems glib to people focussing on the easy headlines.

It pretty much is according to lots of scientists, urgently to boot. Whether particular protestors are fully cognizant of the implications of doing that has as much relevance to the Earth's ecosystem as other people's understanding of the consequences of continuing as we are now