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JimmyJeffers said:
In a lot of fields in academia, if you go against the dominant narrative you can get a lot of pushback for sure and opinions are often shot down and people even ostracised as I’m sure @Daveysgingerlovechild can confirm.

The problem in this instance is the sheer scale of evidence and like I said earlier, if oil companies, nation states etc had firm evidence to the contrary, this would have been well known and ministers etc briefed.

Instead it’s been snide undermining and deluge of misinformation as organisations are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. They’re just hoping someone else deals with it.
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My scepticism comes from having seen the impending global catastrophe change narrative over the past 30 years, we studied it at university in ecology - there's a huge groundswell of scientific opinion that man is a pretty much responsible for climate change. But it doesn't explain how pre industrial revolution and going back throughout history (which we can see now with a identification data going back into different ages, the fact the planet has repeatedly had cycles of heating up then cooling down.

So is this current one actually out of the natural cyclic pattern or are we just the first age who can attribute it to our influence on the world....
 
bluestevon said:
My scepticism comes from having seen the impending global catastrophe change narrative over the past 30 years, we studied it at university in ecology - there's a huge groundswell of scientific opinion that man is a pretty much responsible for climate change. But it doesn't explain how pre industrial revolution and going back throughout history (which we can see now with a identification data going back into different ages, the fact the planet has repeatedly had cycles of heating up then cooling down.

So is this current one actually out of the natural cyclic pattern or are we just the first age who can attribute it to our influence on the world....
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Climate science does explain this in huge detail, your scepticism comes from a lack of knowledge
 
bluestevon said:
My scepticism comes from having seen the impending global catastrophe change narrative over the past 30 years, we studied it at university in ecology - there's a huge groundswell of scientific opinion that man is a pretty much responsible for climate change. But it doesn't explain how pre industrial revolution and going back throughout history (which we can see now with a identification data going back into different ages, the fact the planet has repeatedly had cycles of heating up then cooling down.

So is this current one actually out of the natural cyclic pattern or are we just the first age who can attribute it to our influence on the world....
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Your skepticism comes from not having a functional kin brain.
 
bluestevon said:
My scepticism comes from having seen the impending global catastrophe change narrative over the past 30 years, we studied it at university in ecology - there's a huge groundswell of scientific opinion that man is a pretty much responsible for climate change. But it doesn't explain how pre industrial revolution and going back throughout history (which we can see now with a identification data going back into different ages, the fact the planet has repeatedly had cycles of heating up then cooling down.

So is this current one actually out of the natural cyclic pattern or are we just the first age who can attribute it to our influence on the world....
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Yes, the earth has always had warm periods and cool periods, but those have always taken place over a period of tens or hundreds of thousands of years. The current change is happening over a period of decades.

Based on that, it is fairly safe to say that this is not a natural cycle
 
WA Toffee said:
Yes, the earth has always had warm periods and cool periods, but those have always taken place over a period of tens or hundreds of thousands of years. The current change is happening over a period of decades.

Based on that, it is fairly safe to say that this is not a natural cycle
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It's also quite startling to claim an basic knowledge of why the planet has been through those cycles pre industrialisation and then be skeptical of anthropological influences on climate change when both are so closely linked. That being said the lad involved here a complete bluffer who will portray a deep thinking analysis when none has been applied.
 
Walken said:
It's also quite startling to claim a basic knowledge of why the planet has been through those cycles pre industrialisation and then be skeptical of anthropological influences on climate change when both are so closely linked. That being said the lad involved here a complete bluffer who will portray a deep thinking analysis when none has been applied.
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Like a diluted Holliday.
 
Walken said:
It's also quite startling to claim an basic knowledge of why the planet has been through those cycles pre industrialisation and then be skeptical of anthropological influences on climate change when both are so closely linked. That being said the lad involved here a complete bluffer who will portray a deep thinking analysis when none has been applied.
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Bluestevon is less tedious than Holliday. But that is like saying Hitler was slightly less murderous than Stalin
 
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