It's what they are drip fed by the fossil fuel lobbied cult leaders.
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I've been helping move water down near the river but it has just started raining and all of our work has been wiped out. Thousands of families will be displaced because of this.
You can't park there mate
Grounded in belief in small government I guess.
I see people saying that the Green agenda is being pushed so governments can tax people more which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me given the influence big business has on government agenda.
You’d have thought if climate change was a scam, some of the richest and most powerful organisations in the world would be able to fund and provide robust research and data to prove it. Instead they silently pay scam artists.
Some people would still be chomping away on asbestos if they thought they were owning libs.
Absolutely gutted.
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Green growth vs productivity: the UK’s energy dilemma
Can the UK deliver green growth without hurting productivity? Examine trade-offs in energy policy, investment and innovation shaping long-term prosperity.www.jbs.cam.ac.uk
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UK industry’s green tech investment challenges
A lack of evidence that UK industry is well placed to benefit from first-mover investments in hydrogen, nuclear power and carbon capture, usage and storage, as such technologies require scale for success perhaps best suited to other larger countries.
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Labour market disruptions from green policies
Green policies affect labour markets via supply chain disruption and reduction in overall demand. While many workers in carbon-intensive sectors like oil and gas would shift to greener jobs, this will entail significant transition costs at least in the short term.
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Limited job creation in green industries
“Not many jobs can be created in new green industries, that is economic activities that seek to minimise impact to the environment.” While renewable energy is supposedly more labor-intensive than conventional energy at the construction and installation stages, data from the International Energy Agency shows that with the exception of solar installation “renewable projects create the least jobs, between one and 2 jobs per million dollars of capital investment”, while energy efficiency in buildings and industry are far more job creating based on such measures.
I'm imagining a future where Labour is still in power by 2035, Kier is still in power, and he meets his goal 100% perfect spot on.
(I'll take a wild guess and suggest none of which is going to happen)
Would I be overly cynical to imagine our efforts will have next to no difference on Climate Change?
As it's a bit like telling me not to wash my car once a fortnight to save water, whist the Golf Course up road from me, has it's sprinkler system running 24/7 all year, (well until it snowed Tuesday)...
This is the laziest argument going.
It's getting harder to ignore though. And the recent trump debacle is microcosm. "I don't care about anything else except the dollars in my pocket!"
"If the world wants green energy, fine they can have all they like, I want cheap gas, cheap groceries, and at least the standard of living my pappy and grand pappy had. This save the whales tree hugging crap can GTF! How come no one is on the Chinese's back? They open a coal powered plant every other day*, why am I suffering for the same environment? Feck this, lets drill and frack and push oil and by then, it's someone else's problem"
TLDR?
"I'm alright Jack!"
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True none the less, humanity has to accept its fate, greed will win over need to protect the environment. Myself would dearly like to believe otherwise. Just myself look at it another way. Indeed humanity will screw things up for itself due simply down to greed and over breeding. We will mess it so much that large percentage of human life dies out, pretty sure of it. The planet and all other live will be far better off and will regenerate naturally without our current numbers and actions.
For those who pay tax on PAYE have no choice, yet the Government allow the powerful organisations to continue unopposed. On face value that does seem like a tax on working people.
So true. It’s just added to their huge conspiracy list - weird
I em planes to my mate that practically every scientists on the planet backs climate change and told me that they were all paid off - that is the only come back he had.
In a lot of fields in academia, if you go against the dominant narrative you can get a lot of pushback for sure and opinions are often shot down and people even ostracised as I’m sure @Daveysgingerlovechild can confirm.
The problem in this instance is the sheer scale of evidence and like I said earlier, if oil companies, nation states etc had firm evidence to the contrary, this would have been well known and ministers etc briefed.
Instead it’s been snide undermining and deluge of misinformation as organisations are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. They’re just hoping someone else deals with it.
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Can see great deal phycology in climate change denial much like the functioning "addict" who will go to great lengths to rationalise their avoidance not being an addiction.
No point in having a rose tinted view of humanity. It will drive itself off the cliff edge in context of climate change, dare say we bouncing down the cliff now and only when we hit bottom will we regret the choices we made about our climate.
For example research in Germany, where most people report environmentally friendly attitudes and intentions (BMU & UBA, 2019) but simultaneously ignore climate change in everyday life. Their attitudes are often inconsistent with appropriate environmentally friendly decisions...
Present all the fact figures charts you like, mock "deniers" in closed circles of smugness. Won't change minds. Short term goals of the indivual now, will always beat long term goals of the many in the future. Been repeated by Civilisations around world since year dot.
Yeah, for sure. Fairly sure it's happened in medicine/pharmacology and folk have been vindicated (can't recall the examples).
You do have to be careful with this though because there can be good reason folk are ignored or discredited. Bad academic practice, being plain wrong, being a wrong un or a combination of all three.
The Andrew Wakefield MMR/Autism furore being an example of bad practice/science that still has echoes amongst conspiracy nuts today -
Lancet retracts 12-year-old article linking autism to MMR vaccines - PMC
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Patrick Minford is beloved by the Conservative Party, or the worst arm of it, and so often turn to his doctrines/wisdom on economics. With very questionable outcomes. He's widely criticised in his field, often being the dissenting voice, but in they go.
Guess it's all about what you want to hear. If you have the right message for the right people, someone will champion you. Govt, cranks, grifters etc.
Changing topic a little, the climate science focus of current environmentalist discourse is probably a bit of a red herring in some respects.
It would be marvellous if we were shown that our activities don't cause it. But does that mean we should carry on as we are?
Arguably not. We're destroying the environment in a million other different ways. Hell, the current path to 'net zero' probably finds a few others.
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