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Eamon Ryan, Green Party Leader and Irish Minister for the Environment and Climate is off on a jolly to the Far East for the St Patrick's holiday. The carbon
footprint for the trip is estimated to be 4.52 m/tonnes. more than the average footprint of a motorist in a full year driving diesel or petrol.

Meanwhile his carbon taxes on coal and oil have left thousands freezing in their homes

I absolutely detest hypocrisy.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...issions-of-the-average-irish-car-42346239.htm
 
Bluerover said:
Eamon Ryan, Green Party Leader and Irish Minister for the Environment and Climate is off on a jolly to the Far East for the St Patrick's holiday. The carbon
footprint for the trip is estimated to be 4.52 m/tonnes. more than the average footprint of a motorist in a full year driving diesel or petrol.

Meanwhile his carbon taxes on coal and oil have left thousands freezing in their homes

I absolutely detest hypocrisy.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...issions-of-the-average-irish-car-42346239.htm
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Tbf he'd be lashed out of it if he refused to travel for Paddies day as well. He should've just gone by boat to the UK or France.
 
Bluerover said:
Eamon Ryan, Green Party Leader and Irish Minister for the Environment and Climate is off on a jolly to the Far East for the St Patrick's holiday. The carbon
footprint for the trip is estimated to be 4.52 m/tonnes. more than the average footprint of a motorist in a full year driving diesel or petrol.

Meanwhile his carbon taxes on coal and oil have left thousands freezing in their homes

I absolutely detest hypocrisy.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...issions-of-the-average-irish-car-42346239.htm
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That seems more like a false equivalence than hypocrisy
 
Bluerover said:
Perhaps.

However freezing vulnerable people and putting businesses and jobs at risk because of an ideology that has only 4% support, but then justifies a trip like that is to me rank hypocrisy. My honest opinion.
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If you want to play the emotional game we can talk decreasing biodiversity, mass climate induced migration, thousands of pollution relation deaths every year and increased hardship and devastation. Its not ideology based, its fact based, and i would argue you are looking at the wrong reasons those businesses and vulnerable folk are unfortunately suffering. I'm certainly not in favour of unnecessary internal flights and reducing air travel is the most effective way of reducing your carbon footprint, but that being said I would imagine kerosene is part of the same tax.
 
I suspect they were prepared for custodial before hand and still will be. So...
When some of the same ''culprits'' go and do similar and get pulled again, front page of the rags and "activist anarchists disobey law AGAIN!!!" type escalation.
They are prepared to suffer to get the message across and disrupt daily life for whoever (still can't figure out why they aren't chaining themselves to the refineries etc) so it's game on...
 
Bluerover said:
Eamon Ryan, Green Party Leader and Irish Minister for the Environment and Climate is off on a jolly to the Far East for the St Patrick's holiday. The carbon
footprint for the trip is estimated to be 4.52 m/tonnes. more than the average footprint of a motorist in a full year driving diesel or petrol.

Meanwhile his carbon taxes on coal and oil have left thousands freezing in their homes

I absolutely detest hypocrisy.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...issions-of-the-average-irish-car-42346239.htm
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I support the basic principles of the Green party (at least here in the USA: social justice, environmental stewardship), so I do wish that politicians, who are in high-profile positions and also actually stand for meaningful causes (unlike the USA, where half of our electorate--i.e., most Republicans seem to "stand for" being highly stupid, rabble-rousing counterfactual contrarian idiots who lie), would at least have some sense of the larger demographic they help govern, given what they are fighting for.

This is to say, they should at least have some sense of self-awareness, such as "okay, I'm a Green party leader...should I really be flying to a party, or might it possibly be perceived by non-Greens as problematic?" This instance sounds a bit tone-deaf, at least to me. At the same time, some politicians, mostly progressives/Green party members, no matter what they do, will always have a demographic subset that hates them for politicking on an accurate but unverifiable future (i.e., much of their electorate will die before seeing the more extreme ravages of climate change despite it happening on a smaller scale again and again before their own eyes). Humans are largely poor at future discounting.
 
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verreauxi said:
I support the basic principles of the Green party (at least here in the USA: social justice, environmental stewardship), so I do wish that politicians, who are in high-profile positions and also actually stand for meaningful causes (unlike the USA, where half of our electorate--i.e., most Republicans seem to "stand for" being highly stupid, rabble-rousing counterfactual contrarian idiots who lie), would at least have some sense of the larger demographic they help govern, given what they are fighting for.

This is to say, they should at least have some sense of self-awareness, such as "okay, I'm a Green party leader...should I really be flying to a party, or might it possibly be perceived by non-Greens as problematic?" This instance sounds a bit tone-deaf, at least to me. At the same time, some politicians, mostly progressives/Green party members, no matter what they do, will always have a demographic subset that hates them for politicking on an accurate but unverifiable future (i.e., much of their electorate will die before seeing the more extreme ravages of climate change despite it happening on a smaller scale again and again before their own eyes). Humans are largely poor at future discounting.
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This individual has an arrogant approach to citizens. Rather than trying to bring people with him he believes in issuing orders.

He lives in Dublin and can cycle to work or use an extensive public transport system.

For us who live in rural areas there is zero public transport and cars are a necessity.

Yet we pay exorbitant taxes on fuel with no allowance made.

His party has minuscule electoral support yet manages to make huge numbers of people struggle to heat their homes or simply get to work and get children to schools.
 
Its gonna be a long year.



The scary part here is the wet bulb temperature. Basically if you are in a humid climate and wet bulb temperature is around the ambent air temperature its impossible for you to lower your body temperature by sweat and evaporation. Unless you live in an air conditioned house your chances of succumbing to heat stroke sky rockets, especially if you're elderly or sick.
 
dublinbluenose said:
Its gonna be a long year.



The scary part here is the wet bulb temperature. Basically if you are in a humid climate and wet bulb temperature is around the ambent air temperature its impossible for you to lower your body temperature by sweat and evaporation. Unless you live in an air conditioned house your chances of succumbing to heat stroke sky rockets, especially if you're elderly or sick.
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And lads on this thread are crying about not being able to drive their cars around.

Voters need to make climate action a priority.
 
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