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[BlueToff]

The absolute arrogance.

And also, that reporter has just opened themselves up for libel. In no way is that 'violent' and in no way is it 'drivers' – it's one person. Hope someone gets onto that because it's inaccurate reporting. Should know better.

I have absolutely no issue with climate change campaigns etc, we all need to do our bit.

Stuff like this isn't 'doing our bit'. Police should be kicking them off the road. It's actually a crime they're committing, too.

 

[BlueToff]

And 'insulate Britain' is a dreadful slogan

 

[WA Toffee]

And the government is ditching any environmental requirements from the Australia trade deal too.

Australia doesn't do environmental requirements

 

[BlueToff]

Should have run them over

 

[BlueToff]

I'd be ready to go full Chinese government here.

Tear gas, rubber bullets, the odd real one. Get rid of these arrogant, stuck up, hairy armpitted freaks

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I'd be ready to go full Chinese government here.

Tear gas, rubber bullets, the odd real one. Get rid of these arrogant, stuck up, hairy armpitted freaks

Protest isn’t always meant to be palatable to people you know.

 

[tsubaki]

I'd be ready to go full Chinese government here.

Tear gas, rubber bullets, the odd real one. Get rid of these arrogant, stuck up, hairy armpitted freaks

Having lived in a city with no or negligible air pollution for a year and a bit, I can’t really bring myself to slate the people who want to try and bring that freedom (from other people’s fumes) back.

Car driving, especially in London, does really need to be phased out sooner rather than later.

 

[orchard]

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HOMEPOLITICSPOLITICAL COMMENTARY​

SEPTEMBER 3, 2021 12:57PM ET​

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Our Summer From Hell​

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Cue the round of media wondering if this is the moment people “wake up” to the climate crisis. If this is what waking up looks like, we’re screwed​

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JEFF GOODELL​

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Floodwater surrounds vehicles following heavy rain on an expressway in Brooklyn, New York early on September 2, 2021, as flash flooding and record-breaking rainfall brought by the remnants of Storm Ida swept through the area.​

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Now you can see how it works, this whole climate collapse scenario that writers and scientists have been hollering about for years. In the space of a few short months, the Pacific Northwest was baked by an extreme heat wave, California was (and still is) consumed by wildfire and parched by drought, Tennessee was hit by 17 inches of rain that caused devastating floods that killed 22 people, a major hurricane flattened towns and knocked out power for nearly a million people along the Gulf Coast and then moved north and drowned one of the richest cities in the world. All of this was in addition to battling a mutating virus that has already killed more than 645,000 Americans and may or may not be a preview of a new climate-driven pandemic era.​

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All this is happening with just 1 C of warming. “This is climate change,” climate scientist Andrew Dessler said in an interview on CNBC. “It’s just a small preview of what is going to happen if we don’t stop emitting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. We really need to do that, or we are going to look back on this as the good old days.”​

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[orchard]

I'd be ready to go full Chinese government here.

Tear gas, rubber bullets, the odd real one. Get rid of these arrogant, stuck up, hairy armpitted freaks

Yeah mert, get the state to defend your rights to trash the world for everyone.

 

[BlueToff]

Having lived in a city with no or negligible air pollution for a year and a bit, I can’t really bring myself to slate the people who want to try and bring that freedom (from other people’s fumes) back.

Car driving, especially in London, does really need to be phased out sooner rather than later.

They've blocked the M25 - they're committing a crime (blocking a public highway). Stopping people getting to work, stopping an ambulance getting through (what if that costs someone their life?)

There's ways to go about things.

It's made me properly angry and if you think it's alright then you're in fantasy world too.

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah mert, get the state to defend your rights to trash the world for everyone.

I absolutely didn't say that did I?

They're committing a crime, you can't block a public highway. I'm not against them protesting. But they'd have much more leniency from people if they didn't do it in such daft ways.

Also, what if that ambulance that was blocked from getting through has resulted in someone dying?

Is that fair cop?

If you were stuck in a traffic jam for 2 hours, missed something that is absolutely vital for your job or livelihood, would you just be 'well I agree with what they're trying to say'?

 

[BlueToff]

Protest isn’t always meant to be palatable to people you know.

What if that ambulance that was blocked has resulted in someone dying so some retired geography teachers can sit on a road?

What if vital deliveries of equipment to hospitals or surgeries or something like that has been delayed?

 

[Tubey]

I'd be ready to go full Chinese government here.

Tear gas, rubber bullets, the odd real one. Get rid of these arrogant, stuck up, hairy armpitted freaks

Bunch of bells mate. Counterproductive too as the wider public will hate the protestors for this crap and be less sympathetic to their cause.

 

[BlueToff]

Bunch of bells mate. Counterproductive too as the wider public will hate the protestors for this crap and be less sympathetic to their cause.

Can't be having it at all.

I'm fully behind their cause. Of course we have to do our bit and I like to think I do. I'm lucky enough not to have to travel for work though, others aren't so lucky.

 

[Tubey]

Can't be having it at all.

I'm fully behind their cause. Of course we have to do our bit and I like to think I do. I'm lucky enough not to have to travel for work though, others aren't so lucky.

I'm behind the overarching topic of mitigating climate change where possible... but I have a very different view of what 'mitigating' and 'where possible' is.

I'm not behind their literal cause. This is what that is.



Like all of these types of bells, they want things done exactly their way, any other way isn't correct. They don't care about logistics, costs or anything - the 'emergency' is all they care about. They don't care about democracy either - if the above is your manifesto, stand on a political platform with it or sod off.

Stuff 'em.