English FA to adopt the "Rooney Rule"

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Nope you've misunderstood completely.
Ince himself has tried to play the race card saying he's not employed/offered as many jobs because he's black.
What I'm pointing out is that of the only ones who I can think of that have had the opportunity the majority have not been successful. The reason they aren't employed is because their history shows they aren't very good at their jobs, nothing to do with the fact their black.

What I'd like to see is how many black men/women actually apply for positions, take their badges etc apply for the less glamorous roles and do the job without crying to the media to get a job. I'd be interested to see how proportionate the rate is then.

Basically I'm trying to say the only reason I can see is that there aren't as many applications and the ones who have haven't been very good, hence why they're aren't as many employed.
I'm not a footballer because I'm not very good, not because I'm white for example.

Apologies if I've not explained it well but hopefully you've got the point I'm trying to make

We have i think 3 black managers in the top 4 divisions.

5 live did a show on it a few months back. Coaching badges was in the region of 20% being done by black and ethnic minorities.

Playing wise its 25% are black and ethnic minorities.

The figures don't add up, maybe its time we bring the Rooney rule in across football.
 
The rooney rule is one of the few very good things that NFL management has done recently.

Sure occasionally it looked like a farce when say a someone was all but hired (say like Gruden). However it got names out there in the public sphere, names that weren't even considered in the past. The number of black coaches went up and also the number of black assistants went up as well. Or you not have the rule and continue to recycle the same old trash or bring in new trash like Gareth Southgate.

After Cowher left the steelers, the clear front runner for the HC job was *gah, shudder, hold me* Ken Wiesenhunt, but they brought Tomlin in who blew management away in the interview. One of these coaches to be the most meh of meh coaches ever and the other has one of the best coaching winning % in the history of the NFL.
 
It's a good move.

As mentioned previously, the numbers don't add up to the fact how many qualified black coaches we have and the percentage of black players in the leagues, yet there are barely a handful of black managers managing at a decent level.

Yes, a lot of them are bad - for whatever reason - but there has to be untapped potential out there.

And no, they're not just hired because they're a different colour, race or gender, they'll get hired at the end of the day if they're the best candidate.

Get your gargabe thinking of 'IT'S PC GONE MAD, IT WAS BETTER IN THE 60'S AND 70's' in the bin you knuckle-dragging, UKIP voting scruffs.
 
this has been a resounding success over here. You have to give people an opportunity to interview. Clubs will pick who they want anyway but you give qualified candidate support a chance tip-off impress. And also to morove their interviewing fir the next opportunity. And get their name out there. There’s literally no down side to this.
 
I see the "I don't even see colour" brigade are out in force as if it was they, themselves, who were being accused of racism.

I think people still think that racism is some sort of thing of the past, as if young black players aren't still abused on the pitch, as if Liverpool FC doesn't exist, as if the Italian and Eastern European leagues aren't a thing. Football fans are still doing monkey chants, and while we have made good progress from the banana skin throwing days, racism still exists, from the subconscious to the blatant and extreme, and measures should always be taken if the numbers don't add up.

Quota systems are never perfect, but until a better way is found to encourage a gradual change in what are absurdly anomalous statistics, I'm all for it. To the people who are listing the 4 black managers they know as an example of why the initiative would fail, 7 white PL managers have been sacked in this season alone, but it will never be seen as an indictment of white managers everywhere. Conversely, Black managers have to face the Paul Ince argument every time this issue crops up. And that's kind of the point. Very few managers are overwhelming successes. Black candidates are not even being given the same opportunities to fail as the majority of their crap white, job-hopping counterparts.
 
There maybe no 'right' way to look at this ruling
Except maybe
2 wrongs...not hiring and quotas...never make a right...whatever 'right' is.
 
Until we know how many white, black or ethnic people apply for thse jobs. this is just a pc rule to appease people and not just in sport but all jobs.
 
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