ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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On a side note the appointed God of the Kopites appears to be at it again (Benitez).

Lets examine his track record;
1) Spent hundreds of millions at Liverpool (2 or 3 times more than 16 teams in the league) and left them languishing outside of the top 6? Check

2) Went to the European Champions and best team in Europe and left them languishing mid table in an average league? Check

3) Went to the best team in England and most expensively assembled squad in Europe at Chelsea (a squad a championship manager got to win the European cup) and failed to get them into the top 4? Check

4) Went to one of the top Italian sides who were challenging for the title, won nothing and left them outside of the top places? Check

5) Went to the most expensively assembled squad in the history of football, with arguably the second best player to ever play the game, alongside Bale and Benzema, and have them hammered 4-0 at home in their most important fixture of the season. Well on his way to repeating the same pattern. Check.

The guy is a complete fraud. I would have said he's Moyes MK2 with a fluky penalty kick competition win. That does a disservice to Moyes though, he is a far worse manager than him. He is well on his way to repeating what Moyes did at Manchester United for the 5th time running. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say he is one of the worst managers currently in top divisons across Europe.

I pray for the day the rats get him back. He ruins championship contending teams, imagine what he would do to a mid table nothing club like them? I think it's a safe bet to say he would take them down. I'm glad we dodged a bullet and didn't appoint him as we'd have been relegation fodder.

Sorry we're usually on the same page when it comes to the RS but I actually rate Benitez. His football can be dour but he understands what it takes defensively to win trophies.

You've got to include his time at Valencia if we're talking fairly. Two league titles and a European trophy is good in anyone's books.

He went to a Liverpool side that was largely in decline. The late 90s vintage of Mcmanaman Fowler Henchoz Berger even Owen had largely gone or were in decline. He had a decent local spine of Carragher Gerrard and an often injured Owen and some good players like Hyppia but it was not a great team. He delivered by hook or by crook there last two major trophies. 9 years and billions of pounds have passed with only a tin pot v Cardiff to show. Benitez benefitted from what was almost guaranteed ECL income each year but there was no doubting the quality of the team he had in 09. Took one of the best United sides of the prem era and a freak Macheda goal to stop them.

Inter was a mess but he's not the only manager to struggle following Mourinho. That team were champions but most players were well over 30 and you could tell Mourinho had been their last hurrah (Etoo being a prime example). They needed rebuilding yet Rafael got barely any money and no time. What did they expect?

He did ok at Chelsea, took a team Di Matteo had outside the top 4 and with ECL group progression out of their hands. He finished the season in the top 4 and won the Europa League. By the end he had Mata playing wondrously and had beaten United and City well. Obviously though when Mourinho is available you don't pass that up.

Napoli he won the Italian cup but his league form was poor admittedly. Did he have a better team than Juve? No but he probably had the second or third best squad.

As for Madrid it's early days but they are a club who sack managers after one season. Getting battered by Barca is nothing new, it's happened to nearly every recent Madrid manager. The last league they won was by playing disciplined defensive football under Mourinho, they hounded him out, then hounded Ancelotti for not winning it playing attacking football, now they're not happy with Benitez playing defensively.

The player power is ridiculous there, maybe if the president backed his manager the players might play for him and they might actually win something.

So yeah Rafael is not up there with the very top layer of football manager. Madrid may be too big a job but given time he would probably deliver trophies, he has almost every where else.

Would people have him at Everton if he delivered trophies?
 
I have braved the kopite reply until this morning. They really are a bunch of odious thick little rats.

Never has the phrase winning without winning ever been more apt. They are better than us despite being a number of places below us in the league. Their result is also apparently better than ours numerically. Obviously the Neanderthal element can't count from 0 to 1 to get it through their thick heads that 4-1 is a smaller number than 4-0. (Bear in mind the team we played drew with the team they played in the previous fixture).

The most galling aspect about it on RAWK is not just that their collective mindset of a 4 year old unable to count to 1 (yes a backward, limited handicapped 4 year old who will grow up to support Liverpool, most Evertonians would grasp that concept well before the age of 4) but they have the temerity to try and take the mickey out of Everton fans who dare to suggest that our result is a numerically superior result to theirs.

They are the epitome of sheep led by the blind, with a corrosive desire for distortion. They will happily mock, stand in the way of, prevent any degree of honesty and factual correct information and try to harangue and intimidate anybody who tries to stand up to their utter embaressing stupidity.

So for the rats who lurk on here go back and teach the handicapped 4 year old brained dullards who sit in pubs or post on sites like RAWk the following things (the truth);
1) You are a poorer side than us and lower in the league
2) You're result was worse than our result
3) 4-1 is a smaller number than the sum of 4-0
4) O is smaller than 1.

When you can work those concepts out we can then move onto having something approaching an adult debate. Well done for a good result last game, the sort of result that has become par for the course for us mind.

Maybe you can come back with a statement of honesty such as "we had a good result at the weekend, but a big congrats to Everton who have one again outshone us and achieved a significantly better result than us. Maybe one day if we keep trying hard enough we might outshine them. We have done well, but the day belongs to Everton who achieved the biggest winning margin, and our result remains but a small footnote in a weekend that belongs to them."

Lets see how many of the bitter, delusional cretins are able to match my level of decorum and honesty (in paying tribute to their decent result) and put it accurately and honestly where it deserves to be, behind ours. The chance of them behaving in a decent human way? Slim to nil. Watch them distorts facts like 0 is bigger than 1 again!
 
Yet again the whole tiresome 'after dismantling City, could Liverpool be title contenders this season??' tripe is being rolled out once again. I've mentioned this before on this thread, no other club is ever talked about like this. Leicester sit top, yet has anyone even seen an article suggesting they'll claim an EL spot this season, let alone a CL spot or the PL title. Yet somehow a team presently 6 points (and ten goals) off 4th are being considered title contenders. Does my head in, massively.
 
Yet again the whole tiresome 'after dismantling City, could Liverpool be title contenders this season??' tripe is being rolled out once again. I've mentioned this before on this thread, no other club is ever talked about like this. Leicester sit top, yet has anyone even seen an article suggesting they'll claim an EL spot this season, let alone a CL spot or the PL title. Yet somehow a team presently 6 points (and ten goals) off 4th are being considered title contenders. Does my head in, massively.

It is absolutely [Poor language removed] ridiculous. 4th is theirs now, apparently.
 
One swallow does not a summer make. I am very surprised to see such catapulted expectations for one team based on just one performance. Even Liverpool's normally humble and reserved supporters are beginning to jizz...very, very unusual. Perhaps it's just the Jurgen factor...
 
Yet again the whole tiresome 'after dismantling City, could Liverpool be title contenders this season??' tripe is being rolled out once again. I've mentioned this before on this thread, no other club is ever talked about like this. Leicester sit top, yet has anyone even seen an article suggesting they'll claim an EL spot this season, let alone a CL spot or the PL title. Yet somehow a team presently 6 points (and ten goals) off 4th are being considered title contenders. Does my head in, massively.

They're that prone to premature ejaculation it's amazing any of the mutants ever manages to reproduce.
 
Yet again the whole tiresome 'after dismantling City, could Liverpool be title contenders this season??' tripe is being rolled out once again. I've mentioned this before on this thread, no other club is ever talked about like this. Leicester sit top, yet has anyone even seen an article suggesting they'll claim an EL spot this season, let alone a CL spot or the PL title. Yet somehow a team presently 6 points (and ten goals) off 4th are being considered title contenders. Does my head in, massively.
Leicester are getting credit, however it appears to be mostly what a terrific job Nigel Pearson has done, Ranieri is getting nowt.
 
Leicester are getting credit, however it appears to be mostly what a terrific job Nigel Pearson has done, Ranieri is getting nowt.
Probably because the press pack is essentially the same middle aged, posh, jingoistic, xenophobic morons that were writing about footy when he was Chelsea manager. Where, every time he changed his team he was met with incredulity from these bigoted bores, and they gave him a hilarious nickname about it.
They love it when by some sort of fluke since there hasn't been a good English manager since the likes of Bobby Robson one of their lot scrapes a few results together and gets one over those horrible little foreigners.
On the phone ins and football podcasts in the summer when he got the gig they could not friggin wait for him to fail, they were actually laughing at his appointment.
 
Probably because the press pack is essentially the same middle aged, posh, jingoistic, xenophobic morons that were writing about footy when he was Chelsea manager. Where, every time he changed his team he was met with incredulity from these bigoted bores, and they gave him a hilarious nickname about it.
They love it when by some sort of fluke since there hasn't been a good English manager since the likes of Bobby Robson one of their lot scrapes a few results together and gets one over those horrible little foreigners.
On the phone ins and football podcasts in the summer when he got the gig they could not friggin wait for him to fail, they were actually laughing at his appointment.


I wouldn't even say Bobby Robson was all that good a manager.

Howard was the last outstanding Englishman to manage in the top flight of English football, IMO.
 
Yet again the whole tiresome 'after dismantling City, could Liverpool be title contenders this season??' tripe is being rolled out once again. I've mentioned this before on this thread, no other club is ever talked about like this. Leicester sit top, yet has anyone even seen an article suggesting they'll claim an EL spot this season, let alone a CL spot or the PL title. Yet somehow a team presently 6 points (and ten goals) off 4th are being considered title contenders. Does my head in, massively.

Yep, my sky sports app on my phone "Who will win the league"

1city
2UTD
3Arse
4Chels!!
5RS!!
6 Leicester

Both teams are below us and there is West ham and soton above them too.

It is as if they just ignore everyone else.
 
when spurs beat city 4-1, were they talked about as title contenders? they will be in the title hunt a hell of a lot longer than the RS, without a shadow.

i don't mind it though, all this publicity, it makes me laugh. they all get their little hopes up, get too excited only for it to come crashing down. they have one gameplan, let's be honest, it's been that way for about 3 years now, they've been getting results like this and constantly losing and drawing at home to the likes of palace, villa, norwich etc. It's great seeing their little hopes come crashing down in a blazing ball. they did this a few weeks ago when they won at chelsea, they go and lose to palace the next week. they never learn, without being disrespectful to children, most of kopites are like that, they haven't learnt the art of taking the rough with the smooth - something that comes with age. But following that cult seems to make you neglect that.
 
Just heard on the radio that Slippy G is back in Liverpool colours...captaining a Liverpool All Stars team in Sydney next year. Probably played in front of 100,000 deluded antipodeans all mumbling YNWA, etc
 
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