ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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I posted this on another forum the other day so I hope people don't think I'm repeating myself but it might be of interest especially in this thread . I'll just add I do get bits of info from a few sources generally this isnt one of them this is just stuff discussed over a beer so it might be rubbish but the person telling me is certainly in a position to know.

I was in the company of a major NW sports journalist the other night and he was talking about general footy gossip but i found the stuff he was saying about lfc of interest . first and boringly he said that Joe Allen is all but done but they don't want to pay the clause price of £15m so are haggling and trying to push down the price and as I've also heard from another source that Swansea want Mark Davies tied up before Allen leaves.

However he was then talking about all not being well across the park , that he'd heard rumours that Rodgers has (as we can perhaps see) already isolated the likes of Carroll & Adam and only really fancies Henderson out of the Dalglish new midfielders creating tension but hed he'd also heard some of the old backroom staff really don't rate Rodgers' people nor their computer based & moneyball type theories. There has already been mouthing off by some of them to journalists suggesting all is not well , then someone else joined in the discussion saying If Rodgers better hope Allen is good as if he comes in and 'wasn't up to it' that would further damage the manager and the dressing room as some have already said about borini 'Italian international , really ??" people in the game have already been critical to me of Rodgers with his handling of the potential Carroll transfer and this stuff seemed to back it up.

Now there might be nothing in it and im normally very confident of what i say from where it comes from but this is frankly 'gossip' and no more than that from somewhere else than i usually hear stuff but I'm hoping there is something to it and things start to unravel , fingers crossed but who knows.

Heard anything on Agger leaving?
 
I posted this on another forum the other day so I hope people don't think I'm repeating myself but it might be of interest especially in this thread . I'll just add I do get bits of info from a few sources generally this isnt one of them this is just stuff discussed over a beer so it might be rubbish but the person telling me is certainly in a position to know.

I was in the company of a major NW sports journalist the other night and he was talking about general footy gossip but i found the stuff he was saying about lfc of interest . first and boringly he said that Joe Allen is all but done but they don't want to pay the clause price of £15m so are haggling and trying to push down the price and as I've also heard from another source that Swansea want Mark Davies tied up before Allen leaves.

However he was then talking about all not being well across the park , that he'd heard rumours that Rodgers has (as we can perhaps see) already isolated the likes of Carroll & Adam and only really fancies Henderson out of the Dalglish new midfielders creating tension but hed he'd also heard some of the old backroom staff really don't rate Rodgers' people nor their computer based & moneyball type theories. There has already been mouthing off by some of them to journalists suggesting all is not well , then someone else joined in the discussion saying If Rodgers better hope Allen is good as if he comes in and 'wasn't up to it' that would further damage the manager and the dressing room as some have already said about borini 'Italian international , really ??" people in the game have already been critical to me of Rodgers with his handling of the potential Carroll transfer and this stuff seemed to back it up.

Now there might be nothing in it and im normally very confident of what i say from where it comes from but this is frankly 'gossip' and no more than that from somewhere else than i usually hear stuff but I'm hoping there is something to it and things start to unravel , fingers crossed but who knows.

Hope this is right and thanks for passing it on.

But they're Liverpool, they will win a cup and beat us twice, 3 times if we get them in the cup
 
Hope this is right and thanks for passing it on.

But they're Liverpool, they will win a cup and beat us twice, 3 times if we get them in the cup

Yeah knowing them almost certainly nothing in it but it made me smile at least & the bloke was certainly being genuine & I've cleaned that up a bit. I do think though if they have a difficult opening to the season we might see a bit of pressure, heres hoping though hey ?
 
Yeah knowing them almost certainly nothing in it but it made me smile at least & the bloke was certainly being genuine & I've cleaned that up a bit. I do think though if they have a difficult opening to the season we might see a bit of pressure, heres hoping though hey ?

Defo mate, would love to see them turn into the type of club that changes managers every couple of years.
 
Barring a miracle start to their season, he's not gonna last long, I don't think.

if he's not the right man, then liverpool better hope that the people upstairs realise it before it's too late. if they give him too much time they may have to stick with him, because he would have bought all these tika-taka players not up to the job, and before you know it another 100 mill is down the drain. suprised with joey, he's a bright lad, **** knows why he's going there, very stupid move, thought he would have stayed if im honest, might have to start hating him now
 
I rate or certainly rated Rodgers , my concern if I was a red (shudders) would be the reading job. To lose your managers job after 6 months to me points to losing the dressing room , backroom or boardroom or any combination of those , combined with these rumours (however reliable they are) I'd hope maybe Rodgers hasn't learnt his lesson . Sadly he probably has and because of their deal with the devil they'll stumble their way though crisis after crisis and lunch another trophy against the run of pay
 
Barring a miracle start to their season, he's not gonna last long, I don't think.

I think he's toast. He's a yes man with a Swansea mentality who's trying to copy the Shankley style while trying to say all the nice things to get the deludes on his side. To think they've gone from Rafael through Hodgeson and Dalglish to this pretender is amazing really. Agent John Henry, stand up and take the applause........
 
I think he's toast. He's a yes man with a Swansea mentality who's trying to copy the Shankley style while trying to say all the nice things to get the deludes on his side. To think they've gone from Rafael through Hodgeson and Dalglish to this pretender is amazing really. Agent John Henry, stand up and take the applause........

It was Hicks n Gillete's fault lad
 
I heard from a red that they took "about 20" over to Belarus last week. What a pathetic turn-out - and he even offered up the fact that "2 were from Norway", without realising how much this adds to their ridicule.

He was one of the 200 or so who were on the pre-season tour to Canada & the States, so he knew of these 2 Norwegians as they, too, were on the tour and they sorted their visas out at the Belarus Emabssy in Washington. He carped on about it all being too difficult to get everything visa-wise sorted in such a short space of time, but it's still a pitiful following.

There were about 500 of us in Minsk the other year, admittedly we had slightly longer notice (wasn't it about 4 weeks?).
 
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