ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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I watched that Bradford programme. The Muslim ex-rugby league feller running off to the mosque every hour God sends was hilarious.

What an utter moron he was. Perfectly summed up by the young Muslim girl who couldn't believe it herself.
 
Maybe because they are in less well paid jobs perhaps? I don't think you'd get a black cheif executive of a company getting paid less than his white equivelant. Not these days anyway. White people can't help it if black people tend to be from poorer areas and families and sometimes don't make it out of a basic paid job. Hey, it happens to a lot of white people to.

Of course it does, and yet, on average, black people are poorer than white people. Again, why is that, Nik? Does it not bother you?
 
Of course it does, and yet, on average, black people are poorer than white people. Again, why is that, Nik? Does it not bother you?

I'd guess short span of hereditory weath accumulation, large family sizes with poor financial and educational backgrounds. People tend to do as well as their parents. Sure outright racism might play a role but it can be the same as with women in that they might just ask less for the same job. The world is there for everyone to take, but you don't have to try so hard if you have a safety net and support through family and friends who likely share the same economical and educational frame.
 
As were the ones doing the Grand Old Team Haka mate, you should know better tbh as the Maori play the Haka card at every opportunity that suits. The offence taken and the grief that the 'dancers' got after doing our kit launch suggests that the Maori were doing exactly what you are saying Dave has done.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, a Maori can't do a haka unless it is specific to his/her own tribe or it's offensive, unless of course he gets to pull on the black jersey, in which case he can do one that was used AGAINST his people in the past, or he can even be Samoan/Tongan/Fijiian or even a feckin Aussie.

Totally agree, I guess that's my point. It's all commercialism isn't it? Not racism. Or is it racist commercialism?
Way I see it, these are similar acts. Both groups here are acting in the way their ancestors did for commercial benefit, possibly to suit themselves financially. That's how I see it anyway.

You're right about the kit launch though, the only reason they got upset Reidy is because they didn't get a cut of the money generated.
 
Stupid Giraffe:

Black people generally earn less than white because a lot more black people have immigrated to England than white. This immigration means that a lot of these black people live in Ghettos, are very poor from a young age, don't have a good education and are often forced to turn to a life of crime. But that's got nothing to do with their skin colour - you'll find it's the same for Polish immigrants.

My Sociology teacher is black. Does he get paid less than the other Sociology teacher, who's white, for doing the same job? Does he [Poor language removed].
 
#BlameSuarez is currently trending on twitter :lol:

The kopites are trying to spin it to make out it's sarcastic, when in actuality they're making themselves look like right pricks. Love it.
 
Of course it does, and yet, on average, black people are poorer than white people. Again, why is that, Nik? Does it not bother you?

If I'm honest mate, not one little bit. I'm on a very basic wage (unless I perform well over a month). I just checked my account and I have £20.06 precisely in my account left for a week and a half and now I can't go out tonight (ffs). I'm concerned about numero uno. I'm a money grabbing little [Poor language removed] and if some company doesn't pay someone as well because they are black, well, that's really not my problem. That sounds harsh and cynical but it's true. The only thing I can say is that if I ran a company, colour of skin wouldn't affect wages. That will mean nothing but what else can I do? I'm in a job for me and my earnings only. I'm not gonna fight everyone elses fight for them am I? And do you know what, if this myth is true, and company's are still racist with wages (which I dont believe in this day and age for a second is true) and I get more money because I'm white- ****ing get in.
 
If I'm honest mate, not one little bit. I'm on a very basic wage (unless I perform well over a month). I just checked my account and I have £20.06 precisely in my account left for a week and a half and now I can't go out tonight (ffs). I'm concerned about numero uno. I'm a money grabbing little [Poor language removed] and if some company doesn't pay someone as well because they are black, well, that's really not my problem. That sounds harsh and cynical but it's true. The only thing I can say is that if I ran a company, colour of skin wouldn't affect wages. That will mean nothing but what else can I do? I'm in a job for me and my earnings only. I'm not gonna fight everyone elses fight for them am I? And do you know what, if this myth is true, and company's are still racist with wages (which I dont believe in this day and age for a second is true) and I get more money because I'm white- ****ing get in.

This x10000. The only people I'm worried about are me, my mates and my family - black or white. Quite frankly it's not anyone's duty to be bothered about anyone else either.



FFS I'm turning into Nik.
 
Of course it does, and yet, on average, black people are poorer than white people. Again, why is that, Nik? Does it not bother you?

Im just gonna say it..............

Infact, no I aint.

No I couldnt care less.

If 2 people are doing the same job at the same company, I can guarentee they will both get the same wage, regardless of race.
 
This x10000. The only people I'm worried about are me, my mates and my family - black or white. Quite frankly it's not anyone's duty to be bothered about anyone else either.



FFS I'm turning into Nik.

Nothing wrong with speaking the cold hard truth of it mate.

I'm not mother theresa. No one is. Quite frankly if you're arsed about equality in wages where it doesnt affect you in a negative way then you're obviously getting paid too much. Selfish, absolutly. Realistic? You betcha.
 
I'm not mother theresa. No one is.

Apart from Mother Theresa.

Jesus wept, who said anything about white people getting more money for the same jobs? I'm talking about black people earning less than white people on average.

I've mentioned before about the study that was done when they sent out lots of CVs to various supposedly equal-op employers. In each case two CVs were sent, identical in every way other than the fact that one would have a name like Michael Robinson on it and the other a name like Kwame Ikutu. The amount of "European" names invited to interview was startlingly higher than the African ones.

I doubt whether any of the people reading the CVs would consider themselves to be racist and yet there was obviously some "force" at play. It's called Racism and it is part of our society, acting against non-white people. The best way to combat it is to first of all acknowledge that it's there and that we are all of us part of the problem.
 
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