ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[Deleted member 28206]

Andy Carroll will never ever score 15 in the premier league.

 

[Elong]

I don't want Carroll playing for us ffs.

 

[BlueLlama]

Carroll is about 26% as good as Lukaku, and theres every chance we could get Lukaku on loan again next season.

No there isnt.

Carroll is mildly gash by the way.

 

[Allezfan]

Carroll had a fantastic Championship, his first full season, then his second year (first in the Prem) was good too.

Not saying he's a world beater, saying in a team with wingers (Stoke, West Ham, Newcastle) he'd score goals. Crouch has a decent record in teams like this too (and internationally), would never argue that they're skillful, just know where the net is.

7 goals at west ham., like. In over a season there.

Even for england, it's 2 in 9 which is less than 1 in 4. He's a decent kevin davies style ball holder up but he's not a goal scorer at all.

 

[chicoazul]

The end of the season is the time to be judging his contribution to the team, when he's had a run of games like.

 

[Elong]

7 goals at west ham., like. In over a season there.

Even for england, it's 2 in 9 which is less than 1 in 4. He's a decent kevin davies style ball holder up but he's not a goal scorer at all.

Alrighty statto, job for you, compared to other mid range strikers in the Prem league, how does he compare? I reckon he's doing okay amongst his peers, that was more my point, he's not gash, but he's not a world beater.

 

[Allezfan]

Alrighty statto, job for you, compared to other mid range strikers in the Prem league, how does he compare? I reckon he's doing okay amongst his peers, that was more my point, he's not gash, but he's not a world beater.

Compared to other strikers who cost 50 million, he's doing better than torres.

 

[Elong]

Compared to other strikers who cost 50 million, he's doing better than torres.

Hah yep.

Another unfortunate stigma attached to Carroll will always be his price Liverpool paid for him, even he knows he's nowhere near that value.

 

[BlueLlama]

Hah yep.

Another unfortunate stigma attached to Carroll will always be his price Liverpool paid for him, even he knows he's nowhere near that value.

KKK killed his career with that fee

 

[toffeejack]

Hah yep.

Another unfortunate stigma attached to Carroll will always be his price Liverpool paid for him, even he knows he's nowhere near that value.

one of the worst transfer businesses in English history. He's not a terrible player, but I think he would score a fair few on the end of baines crosses, he's just an absolute donkey and does embarrassing things like heskey and bramble that will be remembered more

 

[Allezfan]

He cost west ham 15 and I think that's too much, the 35 was just insane.

 

[nsno-chris]

You seriously want to count goals scored in the ivorian league, seriously?

I ignored carrol's goals scored in the championship and I ignored kone's goal scored in subpar leagues. otherwise you're not comparing like to like.

In first class leagues carroll and kone are both 1 in 4 or 9 goal strikers which isn't great. You add an amateur african league to that and yeah they look better.

You can't pick and choose what information you want to include to prove your point.

Remove the 40 games at Seville seeing as he was playing out wide and it'll give you a different answer once again. Remove Torres' time at RS and his stats look worse. And for the record, Carroll got 7 in 24 which is just over 1 in 3, so saying he got 7 in a season is again misinterpretation, giving the impression he played a full season.

And just for the record, i never want him at Goodison because I think he his an awful footballer

 

[Brennan]

You can't pick and choose what information you want to include to prove your point.

Remove the 40 games at Seville seeing as he was playing out wide and it'll give you a different answer once again. Remove Torres' time at RS and his stats look worse. And for the record, Carroll got 7 in 24 which is just over 1 in 3, so saying he got 7 in a season is again misinterpretation, giving the impression he played a full season.

And just for the record, i never want him at Goodison because I think he his an awful footballer

He's done you there AF.

 

[Allezfan]

He's done you there AF.

Fair enough, since we agree that all goals are equal. Kone scored 17 goals a season in the ivorian league, so I expect him to score 17 again this season.

What a bargain he'll be then.

Michael Wilde scored 25 goals last year in wales, though and Michael Higdon 26 in scotland and they're both scousers so we should probably buy them and we'll defo win the league.

 

[Brennan]

Fair enough, since we agree that all goals are equal. Kone scored 17 goals a season in the ivorian league, so I expect him to score 17 again this season.

What a bargain he'll be then.

Michael Wilde scored 25 goals last year in wales, though and Michael Higdon 26 in scotland and they're both scousers so we should probably buy them and we'll defo win the league.

Now you're just being stupid.

Nobody said all goals were equal, but if you're going to discount his goals in the Ivorian league then surely it's common sense to look at his appearances for Seville and realise the majority of them were sub appearances and he had major injury problems during that period of his career.

You can't discount one set of figures to suit your argument and then ignore other factors.