ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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tommye said:
what the actual fook is that shizz?

are we supposed to understand and make sense of any of that?

my only other reply would be.....Numberwang?????
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Yes - if you add up all the league positions of the opponents every team has played you get this table. It tells you The Sh1te have had the 18th most difficult (3rd easiest) set of fixtures. Villa have had the hardest. Half the teams have had very similar (average difficulty) fixtures including Everton and Man U (despite what Moyes claims). Fulham have had an easy set (at least apart from Arsenal and Chelsea - the other 5 were fairly moderate opponents) - hence why they are struggling - they should be doing better given that set of games. Villa on the other hand are doing reasonably well despite a hard set of fixtures (Man C, Sh1te, Arsenal, Chelsea).
 
ToffeeDan said:
Yes - if you add up all the league positions of the opponents every team has played you get this table. It tells you The Sh1te have had the 18th most difficult (3rd easiest) set of fixtures. Villa have had the hardest. Half the teams have had very similar (average difficulty) fixtures including Everton and Man U (despite what Moyes claims). Fulham have had an easy set (at least apart from Arsenal and Chelsea - the other 5 were fairly moderate opponents) - hence why they are struggling - they should be doing better given that set of games. Villa on the other hand are doing reasonably well despite a hard set of fixtures (Man C, Sh1te, Arsenal, Chelsea).
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Aaahh. With you now you have explained it.


FTRS. It's a konspiraceeeeeeeee lad.
 
The Hibbert Agenda said:
ToffeeDan-- are you adding teams' league positions at the time when the match is played? Or prior season?
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The present table. There must be better ways of doing it I guess but you can look at the table at any time and say "Everton (for example) did well to beat Chelsea, whereas if Chelsea were actually pretty awful it wouldn't be such a great 3 points". It's only approximate but, to be fair, playing The RS in their present form is bound to considered a tough game. The actual PL table is a reasonable representation of what is a tough game as a team that is winning is likely to be a harder game to win than one against a team that isn't. It's not in any way a perfect analysis but it does have the advantage of eliminating emotions such as Moyes claiming he had a tough start by actually naming those opponents (and overlooking the possibility that a game against Southampton might actually be harder than he assumed (just ask Brentdan that one)).
 
ToffeeDan said:
The present table. There must be better ways of doing it I guess but you can look at the table at any time and say "Everton (for example) did well to beat Chelsea, whereas if Chelsea were actually pretty awful it wouldn't be such a great 3 points". It's only approximate but, to be fair, playing The RS in their present form is bound to considered a tough game. The actual PL table is a reasonable representation of what is a tough game as a team that is winning is likely to be a harder game to win than one against a team that isn't. It's not in any way a perfect analysis but it does have the advantage of eliminating emotions such as Moyes claiming he had a tough start by actually naming those opponents (and overlooking the possibility that a game against Southampton might actually be harder than he assumed (just ask Brentdan that one)).
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What's the point? Why can't they just watch the match and see where they are in the real league table instead analysing all kinds of ****e.
 
Kopites on the bus

Had 2 of them sat behind me on the bus from town to Seaforth. It was feckin' hilarious, I just sat there smirking the whole way. Deluded muppets. Here's a few things I overheard.

"Kolo Toure is the best centre half in the prem"

"Borini is only young, he's Sunderland's best striker, and will score 10-15 goals for them this season and come back stronger for them next season"

"Sterling is putting his personal problems behind him and will soon be back to his best"

"Allen is only young, and crackin' back up; he'd walk in to Man Yoooo's midfield"

Here's my favourite one though..... "Redknapp wanted Rodgers as his number 2, Redknapp said they'd have England playing pass and move attacking football like Liverpool are now"

The bolded bit cracked me up, because, well errr, it's a lie. Wobbly 'ead said nothing of the sort, and Liverpool aren't really playing that way.

They wonder why they are called deluded.
 
mythbuster said:
Had 2 of them sat behind me on the bus from town to Seaforth. It was feckin' hilarious, I just sat there smirking the whole way. Deluded muppets. Here's a few things I overheard.

"Kolo Toure is the best centre half in the prem"

"Borini is only young, he's Sunderland's best striker, and will score 10-15 goals for them this season and come back stronger for them next season"

"Sterling is putting his personal problems behind him and will soon be back to his best"

"Allen is only young, and crackin' back up; he'd walk in to Man Yoooo's midfield"

Here's my favourite one though..... "Redknapp wanted Rodgers as his number 2, Redknapp said they'd have England playing pass and move attacking football like Liverpool are now"

The bolded bit cracked me up, because, well errr, it's a lie. Wobbly 'ead said nothing of the sort, and Liverpool aren't really playing that way.

They wonder why they are called deluded.
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He did say that, but about Swansea, not Livpool, because he hadn't managed a game for them at that point.
 
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