ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[tommytowne]

I reckon Real have a better chance of scuppering LFC in the final.

I'd agree with that.
As good as City are, I've got the feeling that the cult have got the sign over them.
Now if Madrid are their opponents, I reckon they'll be too focused on getting revenge for the Salad/Ramos incident and after it's too late realise that Benzema has royally reemed the rats.

 

[GP_Monty]

Sniff sniff monty - garn ya kopite scruff!

Oh no, woe is me. I take it there's no credible source then, other than "trust me bro".

 

[the golden visionary]

Was there ever a source on this, out of interest? Or do people just blindly repeat it like everything else on the internet? I've seen people saying 90% now, rather than 63% but again no idea on where that even came from.

The lad who wrote it's uncle knows a fella who walks a dog of a mate of one of the cleaners at kirkby who told him that when a player has his medical for Liverpool Jan molby comes in and sits on them for about 7 minutes, then they go in to see the doctor all out of breath. Next thing yer know daveys on pitch lane is throwing around personalised inhalers.

Sounds nailed on to me. Don't see how you'd doubt it

 

[JelavicBrate2]

They fell apart last season because they were cycling off. You don’t go from two 95+ points season in a row, to losing 6 at home in a row, and then bounce straight back the season after with the only difference being your CB got injured.

Also VVD didn't drastically change their form, when he came in. They didn't do that well in 2018, they didn't do that great in the league either. Roma pretty much let them win, if City had refused to play after their coach got attacked, they wouldn't have got through. Real Madrid comfortably beat them, plus West Brom who couldnt score in a brothel that season beat them at Anfield and came back from 2-0 to get a draw. They only won the champions league, because Napoli missed so many chances in Belgrade. Their success makes no sense as usually a teams success can be attributed to a player arriving or a manager arriving. When City signed Aguero, their performances improved, their success in 2014, was due to Sterling getting better, when Suarez left their form went backwards, makes sense. What's bizarre about the RS, is out of nowhere with the same players and manager they have somehow drastically improved their performances.

 

[WilliamPerry]

 

[Toffeefran]

Couldnt disagree more on van Dijk. His absence last season shows how they fall apart without him. He’s genuinely amazing and up there with the best in the modern game.

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing. But in “the modern” game is exactly the point Ballack was making.

 

[WilliamPerry]

Anyone with asthma urged to check if they're owed £128 each week from DWP
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/anyone-asthma-urged-check-theyre-26874000

the Liverpool squad can claim Pip

 

[DualityNSNO]

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing. But in “the modern” game is exactly the point Ballack was making.

So the point is BaCk In Da DaY all the strikers were ABSOLUTELY PROPER BEASTS and nowadays everyone is soft and bad?

The game's clearly going backwards obviously.

 

[Toffeefran]

So the point is BaCk In Da DaY all the strikers were ABSOLUTELY PROPER BEASTS and nowadays everyone is soft and bad?

The game's clearly going backwards obviously.

No his point wasn’t all of the strikers. If you read it.

 

[DualityNSNO]

No his point wasn’t all of the strikers. If you read it.

Yeah but back then you also had the crap ones. Ballack also didn't and won't play with the current ones (and didn't play against the ones he mentions himself?) who are probably better or more refined skill wise than most during his.

He was also notoriously not a defender, so how he became the spokesperson for defenders of his time is well beyond me.

 

[Blue 1]

Was there ever a source on this, out of interest? Or do people just blindly repeat it like everything else on the internet? I've seen people saying 90% now, rather than 63% but again no idea on where that even came from.

There was this article:

Why Liverpool won’t win the Premier League this season

Alan Moore discusses the reasons why he believes that Liverpool will not retain their Premier League title this coming season.

backpagefootball.com

Not sure about their source though.

 

[Toffeefran]

He was also notoriously not a defender, so how he became the spokesperson for defenders of his time is well beyond me.

Not sure you have to - or have been - a top flight defender to have an opinion on it. Fair do’s if you are.

But take your point mate that there’s more to todays game than marking just one player, but being able to manage a forward line of three that are interchanging.

 

[DualityNSNO]

But take your point mate about defenders now having to consider a collective strikeforce of up to three players with more thought interchanging.


Not sure you have to - or have been - a top flight defender to have an opinion on it. Fair do’s if you are.

But take your point mate that there’s more to todays game than marking just one player, but being able to manage a forward line of three that are interchanging.

What happened there with the formatting lol

I know you don't have to be, but why is he piping up about it is a bit weird.

But yeah other than Ronaldo for Real - there's not been a consistent "1 striker team" for a while. It's all about partnerships, interchaging positions, etc. etc.. In the context of that - VVD is very good. Is he the AbSoLuTe BeSt? Nah, but that's jut the narrative in a media full of ex-RS players. It's like when during their crap years Big Nose always made them out to be champions, despite the fact they consistently finished midtable and such lol

He's a good defender and the fact that the game has evolved past one dimensional footballers means he shines because he's good at a lot of things instead of 1. Similar to how Rio was never the best defender, but he was amazing because he could defend but also pass, etc.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing. But in “the modern” game is exactly the point Ballack was making.

I’d call ‘the modern game’ the last 20-25 years.

 

[Yarrgh]

But, but, but that would mean the RS would have only qualified once in about three decades ?

For the asterisk champions Cup?