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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3



Saint Domingo said:
Liverpool fans have now had several seasons where it’s a shock to them if they drop a point at the weekend (and there’s usually a media investigation and a referee to blame it on if they do). This isn’t normal football. Same with City. It’s not normal to be going to European away grounds and hitting teams for 4 or 5 season after season.

The top three in the PL are so far ahead of every team in Europe now except maybe Bayern it’s embarrassing. Liverpool would legitimately expect to batter Madrid Barcelona Juventus Atletico Milan probably even PSG at their own grounds with ease now, maybe not even needing to use their first team. City the same.

It’s an embarrassing state of affairs and it’s laughable people think it’s just normal or just some good training or ‘teams have always been dominant in the past’.

United under Ferguson with probably their greatest ever treble winning side needed a performance of a lifetime to get through their CL semi final against Juve, and even then got battered against Bayern in the final that they were lucky to win. They were praying they didn’t draw Real Madrid at any point also. Even when Fergie had his 07-10 team, Ronaldo Rooney Tevez Vidic Ferdinand in their prime. They got outclassed by Milan and Kaka in 07, they won by the slightest margin in 08 after basically defending for their lives against Barcelona, and then got dismantled by Barcelona and then Inter Milan for three years. This is probably the greatest football manager of all time with his greatest teams, featuring some of the best players in premier league history,


That’s what the CL should be like. Absolute elites of Europe being neck and neck. Not finding you’ve got Roma in the semi finals and going 5-0 up after the first half, or Porto in the quarters and winning 4-0 away in the first leg. The CL now is a complete and utter joke because the elites of English football are now doping beyond belief (both financial and chemical) and the rest of the continent is quite frankly a basket case. Every season now the CL is only between five or six teams.

City Liverpool Chelsea Bayern PSG Madrid

No one else has a realistic chance of winning it. Even Madrid and PSG are unlikely to stand a chance this season. It’s become a joke and is nowhere near the competition it was when seeing the best English teams go up against Europe’s best actually provided some thrill and challenge
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Liverpool are only up there because of Klopp though and will fall away when he goes. With the money United spend they should be right in the mix as well.

The decline of Serie A hasn't helped. Europe needs a strong Milan and Juventus. And now Barca have fell away as well.

5 years ago it was Barca and Real demolishing everyone.
 
gazzaa2 said:
Liverpool are only up there because of Klopp though and will fall away when he goes. With the money United spend they should be right in the mix as well.

The decline of Serie A hasn't helped. Europe needs a strong Milan and Juventus. And now Barca have fell away as well.

5 years ago it was Barca and Real demolishing everyone.
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These Americans have form with doping and cheating already, numerous allegations against their Red Sox teams as well. That’s probably why they brought Klopp in in the first place.

Klopp and Guardiola are, in my view, two of the biggest cheats in football, and they’re at institutions that are perfectly happy for them to get away with it. The 99/98 point season with both teams just winning every week, week after week after week was honestly just obscene for anyone who likes competitive football. Anyone with a brain cell could see that was completely unnatural for any side to achieve let alone two in the same season, let alone with both teams achieving a similar standard either the season before or after also.
 
Saint Domingo said:
These Americans have form with doping and cheating already, numerous allegations against their Red Sox teams as well. That’s probably why they brought Klopp in in the first place.

Klopp and Guardiola are, in my view, two of the biggest cheats in football, and they’re at institutions that are perfectly happy for them to get away with it. The 99/98 point season with both teams just winning every week, week after week after week was honestly just obscene for anyone who likes competitive football. Anyone with a brain cell could see that was completely unnatural for any side to achieve let alone two in the same season, let alone with both teams achieving a similar standard either the season before or after also.
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Barca and Real were doing the same for years in Spain as well before that and both got 100 points in different seasons.

The top leagues aren't competitive anymore. Bayern about to win 10 in a row. Juve won 9 in a row including unbeaten seasons and over 100 points.

Man City in 17/18 got 100 points and won 18 league games in a row. In 18/19 they won their last 14 league games to win the league. In 19/20 Liverpool won 18 in a row to win the league. In 20/21 City won 15 league games in a row. Before 17/18 nobody had ever won 14 in a row before.
 

gazzaa2 said:
Barca and Real were doing the same for years in Spain as well before that and both got 100 points in different seasons.

The top leagues aren't competitive anymore. Bayern about to win 10 in a row. Juve won 9 in a row including unbeaten seasons and over 100 points.

Man City in 17/18 got 100 points and won 18 league games in a row. In 18/19 they won their last 14 league games to win the league. In 19/20 Liverpool won 18 in a row. In 20/21 City won 15 league games in a row. Before 17/18 nobody had ever won 14 in a row before.
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Football has its poison everywhere. Foreign leagues are rife with organised match fixing, the premier league is rife with corrupt refereeing, fixture list manipulation, and doping.

Frankly wherever major money flows then corruption and cheating will follow it. Fine if people accept it but it’s just ridiculous that we’re now at a point when there’s barely a side in Europe who could give City or Liverpool a game in a CL two leg tie. None would start as favourite. Bayern Chelsea PSG Madrid you might hope could maybe match them but anyone else you’d be looking at a heavy defeat by multiple goals unless Pep has thrown one of his crazy formations out again. Liverpool could probably beat the majority of the CL knockout teams with their B team, and people think this is completely normal,
 

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