Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Huyton Layne]

 

[DanEFC92]

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Depressing. Hate those lemmings more than the man himself.

 

[SteveSC]

There are other issues here. Whatever he said, racist or whatever, are being fed straight to the press. What if he had been talking about a 1) commercial opportunity or a 2) potential armed conflict. We do not hear about what is said privately by our PM in cabinet or in number 10, we never hear what Putin or any other leader says privately, the USA is shooting itself in the foot at the moment by trying to discredit Trump while all the time merely weakening itself. Whoever releases these comments should be prosecuted. This s**thole report has completely undermined US commercial and political strength in large parts of the world, it may be funny that it hurts Trump but the damage done to your country will be immense. Throughout this thread I’ve argued that you guys are doing your country down by these incessant attacks upon Trump. Get rid of him by all means, but stop this self harm.........

1. He is the president he shouldn't be discussing any of his business with his cabinet or with congress members, if at all.

2. The media wouldn't be in the room for a discussion of this sort nor with most of the people that were from congress at the time he made this comment and it's largely understood secure meetings like this are kept quiet so your point is moot quite simply.

Arrest the member of government or the press for reporting on something he said really Pete? How ridiculous do you sound. It was never meant to be a secure meeting nor was it understood to be. In fact the other meeting of the same ilk was shown live on television and some of the media were in the room for this one allowed to make notes too. As Trump was showing off that he could get something done with both parties.

Do you even understand the protections under the US constitutions?

Or are you yet again giving an opposing view just to disagree with everyone like you normally do.

 

[peteblue]

1. He is the president he shouldn't be discussing any of his business with his cabinet or with congress members, if at all.

2. The media wouldn't be in the room for a discussion of this sort nor with most of the people that were from congress at the time he made this comment and it's largely understood secure meetings like this are kept quiet so your point is moot quite simply.

Arrest the member of government or the press for reporting on something he said really Pete? How ridiculous do you sound. It was never meant to be a secure meeting nor was it understood to be. In fact the other meeting of the same ilk was shown live on television and some of the media were in the room for this one allowed to make notes too. As Trump was showing off that he could get something done with both parties.

Do you even understand the protections under the US constitutions?

Or are you yet again giving an opposing view just to disagree with everyone like you normally do.

I’m giving a view. You appear to be the one opposing said view.......

 

[peteblue]

Pete the problem isn't the reporting of the comments it the fact they were said in the first place that does harm.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Lalalala not happening" doesn't change things - what the hell do you think he says to ambassadors/prime ministers/business people etc when he meets them - suddenly he's diplomatic?

Heck even without this reporting he retweets Britain First, calls Mexicans rapists/drug dealers , describes those throwing nazi salutes "very fine people" and multiple other public abhorrent comments.

Perhaps the reporting will at least get him to temper it a little and/or persuade some of his voters to reconsider their support.

I understand that, and he is an idiot for saying it. My point really is that I’m pretty sure other world leaders may say something inappropriate on occasions or even on a regular basis, but news about what Trump has said or done is dominating the newspapers. My comment really is that it is not in the US national interest to keep feeding such news all the time.........

 

[peteblue]

If Theresa may had said that comment at a bipartisan meeting it absolutely would have got out and she’d have resigned . Even in a cabinet meeting , especially in her cabinet , I’d suggest there would be a very good chance it’d get out .

You cannot blame people for reacting to a vile racist comment , if Someonr is arrested for hate speech or assault it’s not the victims fault but the offenders . It’s certainly not the fault of those reporting it .

Perhaps. And it certainly would be a resigning matter. I’m just not so sure it would have gotten out as easily as it sometimes seems in respect of Trump......I’m not defending Trump, but I am concerned for the US.......

 

[peteblue]

Er, stones, glasshouse spring to mind

Are you suggesting we should get rid of Corbyn........fair enough, I agree.......

 

[peteblue]

Depressing. Hate those lemmings more than the man himself.

How can you argue against the man if you are not willing or able to understand his appeal to those that support him. Your closed mind will ensure he gets a second term.........

 

[DanEFC92]

How can you argue against the man if you are not willing or able to understand his appeal to those that support him. Your closed mind will ensure he gets a second term.........

My close mindedness will mean sweet FA for 2020 - being a UK citizen and all.

It's dead, dead easy to argue against the man. Try it some time.


At this point down the line, I don't care to understand them. They've seen and heard it all, and still support him. Claiming fake news and what have you. I'd say they're the ones with the closed minds but hey ho.

 

[Pettifogger]

I have trouble reconciling "well educated" and "non ignorant" with "non racist" in this statement. The following things were all known pre-election:
1. Housing discrimination (Known before you have to vote)
2. Central Park 5 lie (Known before you have to vote)
3. Birtherism (Known before you have to vote)
4. Called Mexicans drug dealers (Known before you have to vote)
5. Ban on Muslims (Known before you have to vote)
6. Pardoned Joe Arpaio
7. Nazis are “very fine people”
8. Endorsed slave-supporter Roy Moore
9. Called black countries “shitholes”

Plus the whole talk of building a wall and many other things (should one care to look). So, anyways, an educated, non-ignorant, not-racist person hears all this, and thinks to themself: "I'm smart and well-informed, so I'm gonna give my vote to this unhinged racist." ??!!

Well you shouldn't, and you shouldn't blindly regurgitate chains from Twitter. "Your" list is intentionally misleading at best.

The good news is you didn't write it, you're just falling in line (like Trump's most ardent supporters often do). Here are some examples:

1) Settling discrimination cases happens all the time. I've been involved in literally hundreds. Very few involved clear evidence of prejudice, especially by a principal for the respective company.

2) Trump referred to some Mexicans crossing the border illegally as drug dealers (and rapists I think). The drug dealer part is particularly accurate. He, of course, didn't label them all drug dealers.

3) Trump referred to some of the protestors in Charlottesville on the pro-flag side as "very fine people." They obviously weren't all Nazis. You can say what you want about pro confederate heritage type people and whether they can be inherently good despite that viewpoint, but Trump is probably right here. His comments were tone deaf, however, and a lack of leadership at times where the country needs it is the real issue.

4) Roy Moore is an idiot, but he doesn't support slavery. He made a dumb slavery comment, but otherwise has no record of supporting slavery in any other legitimate sense. Of course, Trump didn't support Moore's comment in any notable way and didn't support Moore in the GOP primary.

5) He did call countries in Africa shitholes. Plenty of them are. The handwringing over calling bad countries a bad word is ridiculous. Trump, once again, doesn't know how to act like a President should act, and that's my problem.

As for another question posed - how much longer people will put up with this...perhaps quite a while. People can deal with a lot of stupidity from the President on Twitter when they're getting more money, seeing their investment accounts skyrocket, etc.

 

[Pettifogger]

Lets be honest, most economies function despite what the government of the day do, not because of it.

I agree. But combining regulation roll backs with tax cuts, and then having corporations directly credit cuts for wage hikes, has political value.

You can argue that it's BS, but I wouldn't want to be the party campaigning on the insignificance of "only" keeping a few hundred more dollars a year, or "only" getting a couple hundred extra dollars a year in salary, etc.

 

[verreauxi]

Well you shouldn't, and you shouldn't blindly regurgitate chains from Twitter. "Your" list is intentionally misleading at best.

The good news is you didn't write it, you're just falling in line (like Trump's most ardent supporters often do). Here are some examples:

1) Settling discrimination cases happens all the time. I've been involved in literally hundreds. Very few involved clear evidence of prejudice, especially by a principal for the respective company.

2) Trump referred to some Mexicans crossing the border illegally as drug dealers (and rapists I think). The drug dealer part is particularly accurate. He, of course, didn't label them all drug dealers.

3) Trump referred to some of the protestors in Charlottesville on the pro-flag side as "very fine people." They obviously weren't all Nazis. You can say what you want about pro confederate heritage type people and whether they can be inherently good despite that viewpoint, but Trump is probably right here. His comments were tone deaf, however, and a lack of leadership at times where the country needs it is the real issue.

4) Roy Moore is an idiot, but he doesn't support slavery. He made a dumb slavery comment, but otherwise has no record of supporting slavery in any other legitimate sense. Of course, Trump didn't support Moore's comment in any notable way and didn't support Moore in the GOP primary.

5) He did call countries in Africa shitholes. Plenty of them are. The handwringing over calling bad countries a bad word is ridiculous. Trump, once again, doesn't know how to act like a President should act, and that's my problem.

Nothing misleading about my list:

Regarding your point 1):

Here's a quote from a doorman of Trump's Building: A supervisor "told me that if a black person came to 2650 Ocean Parkway and inquired about an apartment for rent, and he, that is [redacted] was not there at the time, that I should tell him that the rent was twice as much as it really was, in order that he could not afford the apartment," the ex-doorman said.

Regarding your point 2):

You operate in data-free idiot-space. Please see just about any immigration statistics and tell me how many Mexican drug-dealers are crossing into the USA.

Regarding your point 3):

[Technically, this has nothing to do with my point, since it was post election, but I'm happy to indulge your poor reading skills]. Is that what we are calling these people now..."pro confederate heritage type people." Some of your "very fine people" are pictured below. Let's be clear: everyone knew what this rally was about on both sides, it was a white supremacist rally; if you're unclear about that, you weren't paying attention to all the white supremacist websites during the planning stages of this. So you're wrong.

Regarding point 4):

[Technically, this has nothing to do with my point, since it was post election, but I'm happy to indulge your poor reading skills]. You are correct, Roy Moore is an idiot. And of course Trump endorsed Strange...just look at Strange's voting record while in the senate under Trump.


Regarding your point 5):

Wow. Maybe you can compile a list or something to illuminate us: Pettifogger's African Country Shithole List. At least I know who I'm dealing with now, thanks for clarifying.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[SteveSC]

I’m giving a view. You appear to be the one opposing said view.......

Yet again insightful as ever haha!!

 

[Bruce Wayne]