Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[abelard]

Does anyone think this is actually a good result for the GOP, if not for Trump, in the long run?

Might Judge Roy Moore have been so poisonous for their image in DC over the next year that the Mid Terms could have been a disaster for them come next Fall?

Maybe. Self-styled "moderate" Republicans are certainly hastening to assure themselves that this is the case.

But I think the brand already is thoroughly toxic now, not least after Trump and McConnell both panicked and belatedly backed Moore. It will always be difficult for Party elders to pivot back to more sober, orderly degradation and extraction of wealth from the poor so long as their President remains senile, confused, but in command of his own Twitter account.

The other challenge is that the GOP is increasingly caught between a rock and a hard place. Trump has permanently shattered the delicate balance between the Party's cynical, self-flattering, high-brow-wannabe plutocrat donors, and its frothing, demented, conspiracy-addled petit-bourgeois base. The latter now resembles a room full of toddlers on a birthday party sugar-binge, and it will still take many more minutes of the self-styled adults in the room cooing, cajoling, pleading, or threatening to withdraw television privileges before the brats will submit to their scheduled nap-time. Yet the GOP has also not been able to win without these imbeciles since Eisenhower, and its "cuckservative" leadership already risks the wounded wrath of Bannon's virgin Twitter army.

On the other hand, though the GOP spent the past decade shrieking about Obama's satanic evil, they've come within a whisker of having absolutely nothing to show for a year of total control over the executive, legislature, and judiciary. It is difficult to overstate how unacceptable this would be to its far more preferred constituents - the hereditary donor class. But even before yesterday, the overwhelmingly unpopular tax bill was not yet a certainty, and another Dem in the senate only makes this more complicated, to say nothing of whether waverers like Susan Collins might look to Alabama and reconsider.

I guess having Moore AND Trump to kick around in 2018 would have been useful for the Democrats, but I think the GOP is plenty poison enough already, as the Virginia result and Trump's hilariously low approval ratings suggest. Even an institution as corrupt, vapid, and incompetent as the Democrats might be able to capitalise. Meanwhile, with Moore and friends pissing in rather than out of the tent, McConnell's unenviable task bridging the divide still seems plenty difficult.

 

[Number_25]

Some of the analysis on here is superb.

Keep it going.

 

[DanEFC92]

Some of the analysis on here is superb.

Keep it going.

Thanks mate.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Please Everton don't destroy my mood that's been very bright since the Moore meltdown

 

[Khalekan]

Please Everton don't destroy my mood that's been very bright since the Moore meltdown

Everton didn't let you down.

And West Brom added a bit of icing on top of the cake

Oh.......and for good measure the Brexit fanatics received a kick in the goolies at Westminster

It has been a good 24 hours

 

[verreauxi]

This is a really excellent dissection of the GOP/Trump tax plan regarding national debt, and what the democrats should be focusing on (relatively brief read):

https://www.splicetoday.com/politic...lan-is-a-travesty-but-not-because-of-deficits

 

[verreauxi]

 

[verreauxi]

Another neurologist weighs in on Trump's mental state:

https://www.statnews.com/2017/12/07...m_source=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter_organic

 

[Yank]

Isn't it a state where you can still get married at 14?!?!

Probably... I unfortunately decided to go to school in the south. I can tell you, I learned Alabame is far and away the worst form of the American accent... and I've driven through Alabama. It was awful.

 

[abelard]

Probably... I unfortunately decided to go to school in the south. I can tell you, I learned Alabame is far and away the worst form of the American accent... and I've driven through Alabama. It was awful.

Wasn't where I went to school, so I'll defer to you there, but I spent a few days in Alabama once, and Birmingham isn't so bad. Clearly still getting over the post-civil rights hollow-out, but... not an uninteresting city. Montgomery, on the other hand, has a long way to go. Completely agree about the accent though - buying tickets to the Vulcan Tower, we had to give up and just ask the guy in the booth to point at the price list. It was mutual, I'm sure.

I guess to be fair though, the whole point of Roy Moore is that you fear and hate Birmingham nearly as much as New York.

Don't remember much about Mobile other than that we somehow managed to enjoy it... and that hangovers are multiplied in the humidity. I was younger then ; )

America is somehow so, so much less than the sum of its parts. One-on-one, they are almost always good company (especially in the South), and while it will never be Europe, they are even ever-so-cautiously starting to discover city life again. It's really only in aggregate where they appear so violently deranged.

 

[Ruairi77]

bye bye net neutrality

 

[SteveSC]

bye bye net neutrality

bye bye streaming from companies not owned by your service provider.

 

[Ruairi77]

also 5 years to the day since Sandy Hook and the Republicans have stifled any gun control measures since.

 

[mezzrow]

Help is on the way.

 

[Yank]

Wasn't where I went to school, so I'll defer to you there, but I spent a few days in Alabama once, and Birmingham isn't so bad. Clearly still getting over the post-civil rights hollow-out, but... not an uninteresting city. Montgomery, on the other hand, has a long way to go. Completely agree about the accent though - buying tickets to the Vulcan Tower, we had to give up and just ask the guy in the booth to point at the price list. It was mutual, I'm sure.

I guess to be fair though, the whole point of Roy Moore is that you fear and hate Birmingham nearly as much as New York.

Don't remember much about Mobile other than that we somehow managed to enjoy it... and that hangovers are multiplied in the humidity. I was younger then ; )

America is somehow so, so much less than the sum of its parts. One-on-one, they are almost always good company (especially in the South), and while it will never be Europe, they are even ever-so-cautiously starting to discover city life again. It's really only in aggregate where they appear so violently deranged.

I went to school In Texas, just drove through Alabama and had classmates from their. If you enjoyed it, then great for you. I always got a weird vibe from most Southerners. Didn't seem to like me, but that's probably more me than them to be fair lol. I just always struggled with confederate flags and people driving around with sons of confederate veterans license plates. It was partly me who alienated myself instead of embracing it.

It's funny, my first month there, some weird white dude from the back waters in Florida was telling me how all the people from Texas were such hicks, and all I could think is how this guy is a complete hick to me. He was nice, it just shows how much things can be relative and what you want to make them.