Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Gwladysstreetlad]

It would be awful if Hillary ran again. Utterly, utterly awful

The only person who could possibly of lost to Donald Trump and even now despite him being a complete and utter embarrassment as president still could if they ran against each other again. Surely to God if you can't beat Donald F'N Trump it's a sign that you shouldn't attempt it again. If she was to attempt it one more time, then it would be the final proof (not that any is needed) that she couldn't care less about America or it's people and it's about her own ludicrously inflated ego.

 

[Prevenger17]

So you think he is winding people up with his twitter and doesn't mean any of it then?

You think the stupid stuff he says or his ramblings in press conference when he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about is an act?

And don't you think its fair game to take the p*ss out of someone who well actually takes the p*ss out of everyone himself?

I think they're implying that his tweets are rarely newsworthy, and I agree. So much coverage of Trump focus on his tweets, mispronunciations or some small stupid thing that he said, it's hard to see any real journalism or assessment of his presidency.

From what I can see, most media outlets have been reduced to the sort of playground mudslinging tactics they regularly accuse Trump of. It's easy, it gets clicks and, most of all, it's not in the slightest bit effective. They've been doing it since the start of his presidency and it hasn't worked. It's great for them, because they can work from home, but I'm wondering if they might get somewhere with a piece of actual investigative journalism instead of haha pieces about his struggles with the word "Namibia".

On another note, I hope they completely blow the lid on the shambles of the Democratic campaign, Bernie was utterly done over

 

[Prevenger17]

The only person who could possibly of lost to Donald Trump and even now despite him being a complete and utter embarrassment as president still could if they ran against each other again. Surely to God if you can't beat Donald F'N Trump it's a sign that you shouldn't attempt it again. If she was to attempt it one more time, then it would be the final proof (not that any is needed) that she couldn't care less about America or it's people and it's about her own ludicrously inflated ego.

She's an embarrassment, and these new leaks about the DNC could prove fatal to any hopes she had of running again. She said she won't, so hopefully she'll come through on that promise

 

[toffy]

When the whole thing is finished it will be interesting to see who survives and who is left.

 

[mezzrow]

Just like fox news never reports on anything that doesn't fit their agenda. It works both ways you know.

True, but:

Fox + the WSJ editorial page = the right
Everything else = the left

Plus, everybody else existed first, excepting the WSJ editorial page. Fox has only been around since 1996, halfway through the presidential term of Bill Clinton. Noted serial sexual abuser Roger Ailes was smart enough to see a huge business opportunity when he saw it twenty years ago and sold it to Murdock. Now the internet media exists to help fill the gap. How many viewpoints get out that are to the left of the received wisdom of the mainstream media? Only what leaks out online, that's what. Like Trump, Bernie was allowed to play out the string because the smart guys gave him no chance of success. If the game hadn't been fixed, he might have won the nomination and might be President today.

And you know, Hillary might have gotten away with all of it if it hadn't been for that meddling Fox News.

About half of the electorate doesn't believe much of anything that comes out of the non-Fox outlets. Why not? The other half believes everything that comes out of Fox is pure GOP propaganda.

You would be amazed how many Trump voters voted for Bill Clinton. Twice. It would appear to many of those that your answer is to get rid of Fox News. That doesn't work for them.

 

[The binman chronicles]

A damming (& be warned quite long) article about the state of America under Trump:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41826022

 

[abelard]

Now be careful dholliday. Dare to have a different opinion, perspective or anything else other than Trump is an Idiot and you'll find yourself in trouble.

yup. some people might disagree with your opinion. truly an unsafe space!

 

[abelard]

Premature celebration of karma gone wrong for the Democrats? Time will tell. I'm personally stunned by the suddenness of this end of omerta from party functionaries and leaders of factions to the left of the Clinton machine. This isn't where they thought the investigations would lead. I wonder if they plan to slow-walk the Imran Awan matters or let it hang out now in more of a densepack approach to bad news. If so, DWS is toast but then, she's already toast. She's the one wearing the horse collar now. That much is clear.

no rest for the wicked, eh muzzrah?

I don't think it's sudden... it's been a year since the election, during which time they've also lost every meaningful local election they've contested. If the Party was anywhere near functional, things like the Brazile disclosures (buried in a book, which takes months to prepare, whose main purpose is ostensibly to blame everything on Russia) would have happened on November 5th, 2016. The "Careerists" also hijacked the DNC elections to prevent the inmates (the "ideologues") from democratically commandeering the asylum.

Can you explain, in clear language, without the crutch of cryptic obfuscation, what you think is so important about Imran Awan? What's under pillows like these? I mean.... DWS was shuffled off in disgrace 18 months ago. Seems like pushing against a long-opened door, that.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

When the whole thing is finished it will be interesting to see who survives and who is left.

When the whole thing is done, Trump will be internationally remembered as the worst president in US history.

 

[mezzrow]

Can you explain, in clear language, without the crutch of cryptic obfuscation, what you think is so important about Imran Awan?

"cryptic obfucation." (applause)

I suspect Awan was possibly blackmailing a significant number of members of Congress with information he was holding over their heads while he hacked their accounts. It would make sense based on his profile and what we know so far. This would include DWS. If they fired him or brought charges, he would release whatever he had in hand. Else, why would he have stayed on the payroll as long as he did?

Look into it, and you'll see what I mean. Only the right-wing fever swamps will look under the pillow to see what's fighting for breath on this one. You won't find much where you normally find your trustworthy sources. It can be brushed aside until and unless the omerta breaks.

 

[mezzrow]

I'm taking the pledge.

 

[LinekersLegs]

From your link:


Trump is killing at a similar rate to Obama in this specific campaign against ISIS. But are you aware Obama was ordering bombs to kill Arabs well before October 2014? Conservative estimations put the deaths of drone strikes in Pakistan & Afghanistan between 2008-2013 at over 5000 people. ISIS didn't exist then.

There's a lot of data here which can be cross-referenced elsewhere:

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-01/drone-wars-the-full-data



Twitter is journalist catnip nowadays and Trump is the master of it.

The figures from Airwars directly contradict this
In 29 months 855 casualty events ie 30 per month with estimated 79-117 civilian deaths per month
In 7 months 1196 casualty events ie 170 per month with estimated 402-647 civilian desth per month.

And yes, I am quite aware that Obama was ordering bombing in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I am also aware that those drone strikes have at best maintained the levels they were at the end of the Obama admin but have more likely increased from recent rates, that is certainly the data from your link.
Afghanistan
Reported US strikes, Afghanistan 2017
Strikes recorded by the Bureau
Total reported strikes 2568
Total reported killed 692-1143
Civilians reported killed 3-88
Children reported killed 2-27
Total reported injured 124-247

Reported US strikes, Afghanistan 2016
Strikes recorded by the Bureau
Total reported strikes: 1071
Total reported killed: 1,389-1,597
Civilians reported killed: 65-105
Children reported killed: 3-7
Total reported injured: 196-243

Reported US strikes, Afghanistan 2015
Strikes recorded
by the Bureau
Total reported strikes: 235-236
Total reported killed: 982-1,434
Civilians reported killed: 60-77
Children reported killed: 3-16
Total reported injured: 142-147

Add in that from what I've read Trump appears to be doing nothing to stop the Saudi's attacks on Yemen, or the help ease the cholerea epidemic there, and has instituted a reduction in refugees I can't see much data that supports your conclusion that "Trumps killed less Arabs" than previous admins either through direct or indirect action.

 

[verreauxi]

When the whole thing is done, Trump will be internationally remembered as the worst president in US history.

And domestically...there are so many factually documented flaws in his day-to-day domestic work and policies...a major one being that he really has not implemented anything, just trying to undo previous stuff, as well as appoint as many wealthy special-interest cronies to key positions.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I think they're implying that his tweets are rarely newsworthy, and I agree. So much coverage of Trump focus on his tweets, mispronunciations or some small stupid thing that he said, it's hard to see any real journalism or assessment of his presidency.

From what I can see, most media outlets have been reduced to the sort of playground mudslinging tactics they regularly accuse Trump of. It's easy, it gets clicks and, most of all, it's not in the slightest bit effective. They've been doing it since the start of his presidency and it hasn't worked. It's great for them, because they can work from home, but I'm wondering if they might get somewhere with a piece of actual investigative journalism instead of haha pieces about his struggles with the word "Namibia".

On another note, I hope they completely blow the lid on the shambles of the Democratic campaign, Bernie was utterly done over

Completely disagree, his comments on his own Cabinet and other Republicans alone are extremely newsworthy, let alone the attacks on media, opponents, justice system, transgender, Puerto Ricans etc etc.

 

[verreauxi]

Seriously, anyone with a traditional sense of fairness & balance in their understanding of current affairs should be alarmed at the incessant anti-Trump agenda of mainstream media. The hacks are making a career of his tweets, but we the reader are the poorer for it.

Yes, the focus on his tweets are a bit much, but Trump is clearly changing the presidential game for the worse by sending out these juvenile bullying distracting idiot-statements--it is hard not to give these attention particularly when they contradict the formal statements made by others in his administration and when they have the power to disrupt due proccess; it's kinda like having to constantly pay attention to the disruptive 3rd grader in class.

But the reason the media and pretty much the whole international community is biased against Trump is that he is an odious, racist, sexist, xenophobic, corrupt, narcissistic, thin-skinned, bully, who has no regard for serving the public interests. None whatsoever. (I would presume that you are aware of all this, but if not, then scroll back through the several hundred pages here on this forum, where numerous links are provided documenting Trump's awful self-serving character).

So I echo your quote and say that "seriously, anyone with a traditional sense of fairness & balance in their understanding of current affairs should be alarmed at the incessant" and horrible conduct of this sociopath.