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[catcherintherye]

I think government should base their decision on what's best for their people. That's my view.

There are other ways to help.

Well to some extent yes. That's not an easy thing to measure though is it "best for their people". there's an argument to be said that not allowing Terrorists in is bets for them. There's another argument that says allowing refuges to be turned away which creates more chaos and more killing of American soldiers isn't best for the people. people have conflicting aims and requirements.

For the good of all countries groups like ISIS need to be defeated (not armed like US have done). I also think our humanity doesn't end at borders, how little we have learnt from the Holocaust is frightening, and we have a duty of care for victims of war, particularly victims of war where we have armed different factions?

 

[Prevenger17]

Meanwhile Ireland & Portugal have seen quite left leaning parties gain greater votes.

Labour are still the coalition bridesmaid over here and that doesn't look like changing any time soon. I still don't regard Sinn Fein as a legitimate political entity and won't until Adams gets turfed out. A lot of people here feel that way too. We have no genuine left to speak of

 

[Moomin]

Who are you talking about?

The french/belgian murderers that weren't posing as refugees - or the would be murderers that you'd happily let slip through the net?

Even a one in a million risk is still a risk. I have no problem with a rigourous screening before allowing entry. I don't know why you have.

I'm talking about the Syrian refugees and what they have in common. You keep talking about Terrorists who live in Europe and somehow associate them with people who have there homes destroyed, lost loves ones etc etc

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

For the good of all countries groups like ISIS need to be defeated (not armed like US have done)

Really? All I've seen is ISIS in soviet tanks, carrying soviet AK's. Can't remember seeing them in A1M1's or carrying AR15's.

 

[neil999]

Well to some extent yes. That's not an easy thing to measure though is it "best for their people". there's an argument to be said that not allowing Terrorists in is bets for them. There's another argument that says allowing refuges to be turned away which creates more chaos and more killing of American soldiers isn't best for the people. people have conflicting aims and requirements.

For the good of all countries groups like ISIS need to be defeated (not armed like US have done). I also think our humanity doesn't end at borders, how little we have learnt from the Holocaust is frightening, and we have a duty of care for victims of war, particularly victims of war where we have armed different factions?

yep...a bit like the 'what do i get from my taxes' argument, comes down to ideological arguments, which why everyone is bloomin arguing all the time...

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

What IS yours and @Moomin 's major malfunction? One or ten posing as refugees, there's a problem you're refusing to address. Make it harder for terrorists to infiltrate and half the battle's won.

It doesn't matter where the murderers come from. It's about who and what they are. Don't deflect from the real issue by arguing someone's nationality when the nationality isn't the issue. It doesn't matter once they pull the trigger does it, ffs?

They all have something in common, don't they?

'kinell, you're like the emergency debating committee when Brian's about to be crucified in the film. Balls to hurt feelings & sensitivities - innocent people's lives are at stake.

Do you reckon we should ban cars too? They kill more people than Syrian refugees.

Or I suppose you could pin it on drivers - should we ban them all?

No of course not, because by and large, the vast majority do no harm whatsoever.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Do you reckon we should ban cars too? They kill more people than Syrian refugees.

Oh ffs, what's the point?!

 

[TX Bill]

Summed up perfectly, this should be aired on prime time TV

I didn't know who he was but in my opinion, I think he articulated the issues on the left and how the right feels about it in terms of actual debate vs. name calling.

 

[ilikecheese]

* FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

What defines a terror prone region?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

What defines a terror prone region?

I'd imagine it's somewhere where you wouldn't go for your holidays

 

[SNova]

I mean all these arguments about the migrant crisis are fine and everyone has their opinion. I'd just ponder the question would your viewpoint change if your policy directly destroyed the lives of your loved ones?

Just as long as it's your fellow countrymen that suffer that's alright is it?

 

[ilikecheese]

I'd imagine it's somewhere where you wouldn't go for your holidays

I hear Paris is lovely.

 

[TX Bill]

what's unfair about one person one vote? why should people in small towns be so privileged? they are already disproportionately favoured in the senate.

when they actually finish counting all the votes, hillary's popular vote victory will be quite a bit larger than it was on election night.

the electoral college was created to compensate slave states, who wanted credit for all the people they owned without having to allow them to vote.

but of course, it's whingy and counter-productive to moan about it now, since nobody cared about the electoral college for the past years, even in light of the 2000 debacle

The fact that you asked the question demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of what the purpose of the Electoral College is and why our founding fathers created it.

 

[Prevenger17]

The fact that you asked the question demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of what the purpose of the Electoral College is and why our founding fathers created it.

Aye, the sudden hatred of the electoral college was always going to be a predictable result of this election. It's a good system and factors all the individual personalities of each state instead of letting massive cities vote democrats into power forever.

 

[1966efc]

BBC reporting that Trump is now ahead in the popular vote. Any truth in this?