Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[The Esk]

Hahaha your implying I think American means white don't Ye???

American is someone who is born and bred inside there own country regardless black or white not someone who has obtained an American passport who went there as a kid.

So do you define someone's nationality by their place of birth?

 

[orly]

So do you define someone's nationality by their place of birth?

Funnily enough, you do with thoroughbred racehorses.

 

[JLW]

So do you define someone's nationality by their place of birth?

Yes don't you?? So we're you live is your nationality??

 

[SNova]

So do you define someone's nationality by their place of birth?

It's not as straightforward as that.

Yes don't you?? So we're you live is your nationality??

He's trying to bait you into the anchor baby debate.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Hahaha your implying I think American means white don't Ye???

American is someone who is born and bred inside there own country regardless black or white not someone who has obtained an American passport who went there as a kid.

Well that puts the new first lady in a rather awkward position, doesn't it?

 

[SNova]

Well that puts the new first lady in a rather awkward position, doesn't it?

Why? Do you have to be American to be the first lady? Genuine question.

 

[JLW]

Think you are the only person mentioning a persons colour, it seems to be high on your mind.

Is that your PC way of calling me a racist because I don't have the same views as you????

 

[Blues Harp]

Hahaha your implying I think American means white don't Ye???

American is someone who is born and bred inside there own country regardless black or white not someone who has obtained an American passport who went there as a kid.

I was born and bred in my own country..does this make me American also ?

 

[catcherintherye]

Yes I agree, Sanders would certainly have been a candidate of change. I saw comparisons with The Sun vs. Neil Kinnock, particularly in 1992 which was the only election in which it appeared credible that Labour might have won under him, only on a far more vicious scale against Sanders. The portrayal would have been that he would be disastrous for the economy at a time when Trump was offering jobs for all and immigrants out.

I would certainly have been interesting to see how Sanders would have done, but I wouldn't underestimate the visceral contempt that exists in the American media and even mainstream society for anything that is termed Socialism/"The Left".

It has subsequently been woven into the whole political discourse since McCarthyism and The Cold War and you could argue that distrust/suspicion of socialism and socialists is ingrained in popular culture in The USA.

Both Trump and Sanders would have been anti-establishment candidates, only Trump is more socially anti-establishment and Sanders economically. There would have been significant ammunition for the Trump campaign and he would have found himself aided and abetted by large sections of the media too.

I think you kind of answer your own question though. There is little doubt the media is significant, but Trump won with 3 recommendations from Papers to Hilary's 24. The media would have turned against Sanders but I think we are becoming increasingly sceptical of the print media as a society.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Why? Do you have to be American to be the first lady? Genuine question.

She's an American citizen but was not born there.

 

[dead_soft]

Yes don't you?? So we're you live is your nationality??

He asked you to define it and you've not managed to yet...

 

[JLW]

He asked you to define it and you've not managed to yet...

Yes I have

 

[SNova]

She's an American citizen but was not born there.

Ah right okay.

 

[Nil Satis Niasse Optimum]

The allegations of racism relate mainly to his proposed banning of Muslims. Now I know you'll argue the semantics about Muslim not being a race, but differential treatment on the basis of religion is as disgusting as it is with race for me, and I'd suggest most reasonable people.

There are people who use the racist card too readily, but that should not diminish the labelling of true racists as defined by their words or actions.

I get what you're saying, but these are difficult times not just in the US but in the world in general. If banning everybody from a certain country or countries for a short period of time while the government sets up stringent security and background checks is what he deems necessary to protect the people of the US, then so be it. You surely can't agree with just letting people in without being severely checked, right? Isn't it about time some pressure was place on those absolutely stinking rich gulf countries to take refugees in, you know, the ones just a stones throw away from Iraq and Syria? Nobody in their right mind could surely support taking in so many refugees from thousands of miles away, when it has been proven that terrorists have hidden amongst them to kill many innocent people in Europe. Muslims won't be banned indefinitely from the US, regardless of what anybody says. But while it is impossible to accurately check who the hell they are, there can be no way of allowing them to enter the country. Does that make the President-elect a racist? Or did I understand something incorrectly?

 

[Moomin]

Is that your PC way of calling me a racist because I don't have the same views as you????

I was pointing out you bringing up people's colours when you was asked to define an American. I've not called you racist.

But, I would like you to expand on this comment you made, as I see racism as racism but interested what you define as racist.

What you define as racist doesn't necessarily mean what I define as racist