Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I'm not sure if I support protectionism or not. When one of our industries goes out of business it is gone for ever. Protectionism would stop that happening. Against that the industries we do have are free to expand across the world and other countries industries can move here and provide jobs.

Overall, I think, I'm against globalisation and in favour of small local solutions and democracy

It's an interesting question to be fair.

Local solutions and local communities is something I'd like to see improve too.

What is the feeing about Stephen Bannon being appointed as Trump's strategic advisor ? Have the white supremacists really got a spokesman in the administration? Only going on his links with Brietbart News and the so called "alt right" movement..perhaps our USA posters could enlighten me? He does seem a tad scary

I don't know who he is, but the media and the left have become 'the boy who cried wolf' calling everyone racist etc. So I'm very sceptical about their claims.
 
He started these accusations by being racist/sexist. Hardly media fuelled. Hardly an accusation really
So wanting illegal immigrants out of his country, trying to stop the free-flow of drugs and more illegals (Mexico), wanting to keep America American, wanting to give American workers job opportunities before immigrants, so that defines a racist then?
 
why bother with facts when you already have an opinion?

Which facts? The media constantly construct narratives that fall apart when investigated.

Have we got any evidence that this guy is a monster as some are portraying him? I don't know anything about him.
 
So wanting illegal immigrants out of his country, trying to stop the free-flow of drugs and more illegals (Mexico), wanting to keep America American, wanting to give American workers job opportunities before immigrants, so that defines a racist then?

Define American
 
I'm not sure if I support protectionism or not. When one of our industries goes out of business it is gone for ever. Protectionism would stop that happening. Against that the industries we do have are free to expand across the world and other countries industries can move here and provide jobs.

Overall, I think, I'm against globalisation and in favour of small local solutions and democracy

i support trade, but trade agreements have been about much, much more than just trade, at least since NAFTA

The text of the current proposed agreements are probably (deliberately) too long and opaque even for journalists to actually read, especially given how beleaguered the industry has become. This is probably why we see so many articles pathologizing imaginary Belgians (in the case of CETA), and so few that actually attempt to explain their objections.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/14/wallonia-ceta-ttip-eu-trade-belgium
From the President of Wallonia: "So are the people of Wallonia now dreaming of a closed world, where boundaries and borders can be rebuilt? Are they the European counterparts of those US citizens who voted for Donald Trump, hoping that the billionaire, who opposes TTIP and other trade deals would counter the effects of international trade on their jobs and salaries?

I don’t think the parallels are helpful in understanding the mood in Wallonia. The revolt in this post-industrial region was sparked first and foremost by the attitude of the EU institutions. Trade is an area in which the EU, not the member governments, has exclusive legal powers, but this new generation of international trade treaties goes far beyond trade. They affect, at least potentially, very sensitive national and regional competences (labour, health and environmental laws, public services and social protection, local agriculture …). The European commission should have understood that treaties with such wide-ranging effects would not leave public opinion in the nations and regions indifferent."


Opposing CETA (or TTP, TTIP et al) is NOT synonymous with opposing international trade, or globalization, though you'd never know it from the sneering rhapsodies you see on mainstream sites. It's only a binary if you're too lazy to see it any other way.

these are not trade agreements, per se - they are binding legislation on health care, the environment, education, labour rights, essentially the whole menu of public policy, written behind closed doors, in some cases directly by corporate representatives and lobbyists, then hastily imposed on legislatures on an all or nothing basis.

if nothing else, i'm happy Trump + Brexit will mean the Davos/Thomas Friedman crowd will have to cool it...

or maybe Trump will just change the name from TTIP to TRUMPTIP (it's gonna be awesome!!!) and pass the rest of the text intact
 
So wanting illegal immigrants out of his country, trying to stop the free-flow of drugs and more illegals (Mexico), wanting to keep America American, wanting to give American workers job opportunities before immigrants, so that defines a racist then?
Amen to that.

Horrible racist for wanting illegal immigrants out of the country, for wanting to build a wall to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs into the country, for wanting to stop jobs being taken to Mexico and China for cheap labour. What a disgusting racialist.
 
I'm not saying he wasn't elected by the people of America, or that it was an unfair election. You said it was irrelevant that he lost all minority demographics. It isn't.

Can I just pick you up on "media fuelled racist/sexist accusations" - Are you implying that you don't think he has been either of those things in this campaign?
I don't think he has, can someone provide me with the evidence that he is any of the above??

What you define as racist doesn't necessarily mean what I define as racist
 
Define American
Hahaha your implying I think American means white don't Ye???

American is someone who is born and bred inside there own country regardless black or white not someone who has obtained an American passport who went there as a kid.
 
We'll that's what I'm saying. I'll look into what they've said and done and what they say and do. I won't take at face value the labels they've been given.

i'd post links but all of them would come from "the media." and in any case, i'm a liberal elite who wants to put everyone in United Nations prison for eating the red smarties last.

#redsmartieslivesmatter
 
Amen to that.

Horrible racist for wanting illegal immigrants out of the country, for wanting to build a wall to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs into the country, for wanting to stop jobs being taken to Mexico and China for cheap labour. What a disgusting racialist.

The allegations of racism relate mainly to his proposed banning of Muslims. Now I know you'll argue the semantics about Muslim not being a race, but differential treatment on the basis of religion is as disgusting as it is with race for me, and I'd suggest most reasonable people.

There are people who use the racist card too readily, but that should not diminish the labelling of true racists as defined by their words or actions.
 
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