Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[BirkenheadBlue]

Funny that whole voter fraud thing.
We have a republican governor here, Baker, he's quite popular. I'd probably vote for him in normal circumstances but under the Trump regime I won't vote for any Republican.
That investigation is taking aim at Massachusetts and claiming that people were bussed to NH to vote. Nothing from Baker, no denouncing the orange loon.
Depressing!

Republicans have pretty much sold their souls at this point.

Still not one call for a special prosecutor from the side of the aisle. It's absolutely astonishing. I honestly don't see what "red line" we could reach at this point that would cause them to say "enough is enough"

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Where have we seen a leader demand loyalty to him and not the country. Oh yes that's right Hitler. Oh dear me.

You see, you make a lot of good points on here mate but to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler is just beyond ridiculous (even if done partly in jest). Your far from the first person to do this and yet it never ceases to amaze me how often people cheapen the evil of Hitler by comparing him to every politician they currently hate. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of millions, can we at least try and have some perspective here?

 

[ashwuk76]

You see, you make a lot of good points on here mate but to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler is just beyond ridiculous (even if done partly in jest). Your far from the first person to do this and yet it never ceases to amaze me how often people cheapen the evil of Hitler by comparing him to every politician they currently hate. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of millions, can we try and have some perspective here?

My point was valid though mate in the context of what the article was about. Trump asking the FBI Director, who is independent to the executive, to swear loyalty to him ànd not the United States. The FBI director isn't a member of the republican party.
The last world leader who did this was Hitler who had soldiers sewer loyalty to him and not Germany as they always had.

So sorry to disagree my point was valid in the context and was in no way belittling the deaths Hitler caused.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

My point was valid though mate in the context of what the article was about. Trump asking the FBI Director, who is independent to the executive, to swear loyalty to him ànd not the United States. The FBI director isn't a member of the republican party.
The last world leader who did this was Hitler who had soldiers sewer loyalty to him and not Germany as they always had.

So sorry to disagree my point was valid in the context and was in no way belittling the deaths Hitler caused.

But again it's all about perspective mate. Hitler wanted blind, unflinching loyalty so he could commit mass genocide. Trump wants it because he's an egomaniacal buffoon. I'm not disagreeing with your initial point but to compare anyone to Hitler (unless it's truly justified and no matter what you think of Trump he's not Hitler) is dangerous ground imo.

 

[Huyton Layne]

But again it's all about perspective mate. Hitler wanted blind, unflinching loyalty so he could commit mass genocide. Trump wants it because he's an egomanical buffoon. I'm not disagreeing with your initial point but to compare anyone to Hitler (unless it's truly justified and no matter what you think of Trump he's not Hitler) is dangerous ground imo.

Give him a chance mate he's only been in the job a hundred and odd days, hitler didn't really kick in to gear until the 1940s and he'd been in charge since 1933

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Give him a chance mate he's only been in the job a hundred and odd days, hitler didn't really kick in to gear until the 1940s and he'd been in charge since 1933

Not having that mate. Hitler wrote his evil book in 1925 saying exacally what he was going to do (while He was in prison for a coup against the government) He was making speeches calling for the eradication of the Jews and millions of others as far back in the 20's. I could go on forever about the evils of Hitler and his monstrous crimes against humanity. So no im afraid Trump doesnt qualify to even be even mentioned in the same discussion as Hitler.

 

[ashwuk76]

But again it's all about perspective mate. Hitler wanted blind, unflinching loyalty so he could commit mass genocide. Trump wants it because he's an egomaniacal buffoon. I'm not disagreeing with your initial point but to compare anyone to Hitler (unless it's truly justified and no matter what you think of Trump he's not Hitler) is dangerous ground imo.

Problem is I sadly genuinely think trump wants to start world war 3. He's trying to act all tough kid on the block. North Korea will be the flash point at the start of it all.

Hope to god I'm wrong though.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Not having that mate. Hitler wrote his evil book in 1925 saying exacally what he was going to do (while He was in prison for a coup against the government) He was making speeches calling for the eradication of the Jews and millions of others as far back in the 20's. I could go on forever about the evils of Hitler and his monstrous crimes against humanity. So no im afraid Trump doesnt qualify to even be even mentioned in the same discussion as Hitler.

I can understand the impulse to point out when some of Trump's actions do echo things that Hitler did.

But in general think it not only can lead to trivialization of that era but also don't think it really helps in progressing the current discussion as both sides tend to dissolve into a historical back and forth rather than focusing on the present.

Of course it doesn't help that the president himself is prone to it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nti-defamation-league/?utm_term=.f7db023b1768
“Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to ‘leak’ into the public,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?

 

[Huyton Layne]

Not having that mate. Hitler wrote his evil book in 1925 saying exacally what he was going to do (while He was in prison for a coup against the government) He was making speeches calling for the eradication of the Jews and millions of others as far back in the 20's. I could go on forever about the evils of Hitler and his monstrous crimes against humanity. So no im afraid Trump doesnt qualify to even be even mentioned in the same discussion as Hitler.

Mate, it makes me sad you wrote an actual response. Trump is anywhere near intelligent enough to do what Hitler did. The word "tit" would have sufficed.

 

[ashwuk76]

I can understand the impulse to point out when some of Trump's actions do echo things that Hitler did.

But in general think it not only can lead to trivialization of that era but also don't think it really helps in progressing the current discussion as both sides tend to dissolve into a historical back and forth rather than focusing on the present.

Of course it doesn't help that the president himself is prone to it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nti-defamation-league/?utm_term=.f7db023b1768
“Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to ‘leak’ into the public,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?

I do understand the sensitive nature of it all mate and as I have said it's not to trivualise anything. But you have to admit some of the things trump is doing echo how it all started back then.

Take the travel ban for a start.
This whole attack on the press.

There are others too and it's spooky how similar things are.

Lest we forget.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I do understand the sensitive nature of it all mate and as I have said it's not to trivualise anything. But you have to admit some of the things trump is doing echo how it all started back then.

Take the travel ban for a start.
This whole attack on the press.

There are others too and it's spooky how similar things are.

Lest we forget.

As I said before, regardless of how some of the actions echo it, I don't think it particularly helpful in progressing the discussion as I doubt that pointing it out will suddenly change anyone's mind.

It can make it too easy for someone to dismiss the complaints as "oh, you are being hysterical" without arguing about the substance of the current issues. We shouldn't need rely on "hey look what happened in the past" to point out the problems with Trump's current behaviour as people will invariably just retreat into arguing about the differences with the past - after all history does not repeat itself exactly, rather it rhymes.

 

[RAFUH]

One major problem with an impeached Trump is that it results in a President Pence. He's crazy and scary, but more competent. Even if you hope the whole mess takes down the VP too, that still leaves us with Paul Ryan.

So, my current hope (however faint) is Democrats win the House back in 2018 and then the whole mess comes down on both Trump and Pence.

 

[ashwuk76]

As I said before, regardless of how some of the actions echo it, I don't think it particularly helpful in progressing the discussion as I doubt that pointing it out will suddenly change anyone's mind.

It can make it too easy for someone to dismiss the complaints as "oh, you are being hysterical" without arguing about the substance of the current issues. We shouldn't need rely on "hey look what happened in the past" to point out the problems with Trump's current behaviour as people will invariably just retreat into arguing about the differences with the past - after all history does not repeat itself exactly, rather it rhymes.

Fair enough! Won't try and argue with you as we essentially agree about how bad trump is anyway!

 

[ashwuk76]

One major problem with an impeached Trump is that it results in a President Pence. He's still crazy and scary, but more competent. Even if you hope the whole mess takes down the VP too, that still leaves us with Paul Ryan.

So, my current hope (however faint) is Democrats win the House back in 2018 and then the whole mess comes down on both Trump and Pence.

Not knowing the political system in America as well as i should but if trump is impeached and found guilty and it brings down pence too is there no way that triggers a new election??

 

[Ruairi77]

One major problem with an impeached Trump is that it results in a President Pence. He's crazy and scary, but more competent. Even if you hope the whole mess takes down the VP too, that still leaves us with Paul Ryan.

So, my current hope (however faint) is Democrats win the House back in 2018 and then the whole mess comes down on both Trump and Pence.

president Pelosi! Not a fan but I'll gladly take her over Trump/pense/ryan.
How much harm can Trump do till the midterms?