Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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catcherintherye said:
As I have been saying for months. He will not be winning the election.
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I wouldn't be so certain mate, not sure a lot of the typical voting patterns aren't gonna see a notable change.

Older women and the Hispanic vote, Muslim vote and Jewish American vote in some states could see notable shifts over what are the normal patterns.
Voter turnout is going to be huge, who can get their vote to turn out and up on the day.

It's sure as hell not a result I'd wager any money on that's for sure either way.
 
Walken said:
Probably feel a great sense of pity and fear for the most vulnerable, legitimate sadness at the impact this ogre will have on the world. That's obviously something you find funny, which is ironic given your tone as it was trump supporters who made legitimate attempts to subvert democracy in defeat.
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He's not perfect but he upsets the Hamas loving anti semites on here though.
 
bluestevon said:
I wouldn't be so certain mate, not sure a lot of the typical voting patterns aren't gonna see a notable change.

Older women and the Hispanic vote, Muslim vote and Jewish American vote in some states could see notable shifts over what are the normal patterns.
Voter turnout is going to be huge, who can get their vote to turn out and up on the day.

It's sure as hell not a result I'd wager any money on that's for sure either way.
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We’ve all been saying in here it comes down to turnout, which is why I’m going into tomorrow cautiously optimistic that Harris will end up pulling it out.

Turnout was huge in 2020, and 2024 appears to be tracking that same way if not more so. Looking at the two sides, I don’t see that has happened in the past four years to either motivate new people to vote for Trump, or sway them back to his side. Meanwhile, the loss of Roe v Wade is going to be a major motivating factor that gets a lot of people to the polls for Harris.

It will be quite the own goal if that is what ends up costing them this election. I always thought abortion was an easy wedge issue for them to campaign and raise money on but that they ultimately had no interest in actually overturning it because doing so was quite unpopular. Now that they’ve finally done it, they’re a bit like the dog who has caught the car, and have no idea what to do next now that they’re facing the political blowback.
 
TN Toffee said:
We’ve all been saying in here it comes down to turnout, which is why I’m going into tomorrow cautiously optimistic that Harris will end up pulling it out.

Turnout was huge in 2020, and 2024 appears to be tracking that same way if not more so. Looking at the two sides, I don’t see that has happened in the past four years to either motivate new people to vote for Trump, or sway them back to his side. Meanwhile, the loss of Roe v Wade is going to be a major motivating factor that gets a lot of people to the polls for Harris.

It will be quite the own goal if that is what ends up costing them this election. I always thought abortion was an easy wedge issue for them to campaign and raise money on but that they ultimately had no interest in actually overturning it because doing so was quite unpopular. Now that they’ve finally done it, they’re a bit like the dog who has caught the car, and have no idea what to do next now that they’re facing the political blowback.
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Not sure if it's kind of ironic that in a western world were voter turnout has been in decline for decades that it took the appearance of Trump on the scene to actually reverse that global trend the past two elections.
 
bluestevon said:
I wouldn't be so certain mate, not sure a lot of the typical voting patterns aren't gonna see a notable change.

Older women and the Hispanic vote, Muslim vote and Jewish American vote in some states could see notable shifts over what are the normal patterns.
Voter turnout is going to be huge, who can get their vote to turn out and up on the day.

It's sure as hell not a result I'd wager any money on that's for sure either way.
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There are a lot of moving trends. Lots of women moving away from Trump, and also white people too.

I think that calling Puerto Rico trash may really come back to bite him too.
 
Cork Evertonian said:
He's not perfect but he upsets the Hamas loving anti semites on here though.
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I mean, does anybody love Hamas or hate Jewish people?

I would suggest, equating Jewish people with a regime that is committing a genocide against innocent children is what is anti-Semitic. That has nothing to do with Judaism.

But you probably think being concerned for kids being murdered means you support terrorists. If you're so concerned about terrorism, maybe you should condemn all slaughter equally? Just a thought.
 
catcherintherye said:
I mean, does anybody love Hamas or hate Jewish people?

I would suggest, equating Jewish people with a regime that is committing a genocide against innocent children is what is anti-Semitic. That has nothing to do with Judaism.

But you probably think being concerned for kids being murdered means you support terrorists. If you're so concerned about terrorism, maybe you should condemn all slaughter equally? Just a thought.
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Though I agree with most of what you say and most Jews aren't hardliners like Ben Gvir Judaism itself has some pretty dark stuff that is used to justify the ongoing land grabs and de-humanisation of Palestinians

Deuteronomy 13:12-18​

Cities to Destroy​

12 The Lord your God is giving you cities in which to live, and you might hear something about one of them. Someone might say 13 that ·evil people [worthless people; scoundrels] have moved in among you. And they might lead the people of that city away from God, saying, “Let’s go and ·worship [L serve] other gods.” (These are gods you have not known.) 14 Then you must ask about it, ·looking into [investigating] the matter and checking carefully whether it is true. If it is proved that a ·hateful [detestable; abhorrent; abominable] thing has happened among you, 15 you must ·kill [L strike] with a sword everyone who lives in that city. ·Destroy the city completely and kill everyone in it [Devote that city to the Lord; 20:15–18; Josh. 6:17], as well as the animals, with a sword. 16 Gather up ·everything those people owned [L all its plunder], and put it in the middle of the city square. Then completely burn the city and ·everything they owned [L all its plunder] as a burnt offering [Lev. 1:1–17] to the Lord your God. That city should never be rebuilt; let it be ·ruined [a ruin heap] forever. 17 Don’t ·keep for yourselves [L grasp in your hand] any of the ·things found in that city [L devoted things; 20:15–18; Josh. 6:17], so the Lord will not be angry anymore. He will give you ·mercy and feel sorry for you, and he [L …mercy/compassion, and his mercy/compassion] will make your nation grow larger, as he ·promised [swore] to your ·ancestors [fathers]. 18 You will have ·obeyed [L listened to the voice of] the Lord your God by keeping all his commands that I am ·giving [commanding] to you today, and you will be doing what ·the Lord says is right [L is right/virtuous in the eyes of the Lord].
 
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