Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I know I shouldn't but is he railing against boats with batteries below sea level because they could short out if there's a leak and shark attacks are on the rise.
So electric boats are a major issues because of shark attacks?

How does anyone want this guy to be in charge again?
It is a weaponised protest vote, 'the system doesn't work for me, so I'm going to vote for a person that won't work for those I perceive to be benefitting from the current regime, at least that way we all get screwed equally*, I'll happily alter my vote for a change that benefits me, until then, episodic instances of self harm until I am a beneficiary'.

Believe it or not, it is a symptom of the can of spit* I've kicked around previous, the 'I'm alright Jacks'. 'I don't care about anyone or anything else, only my selfish demands, until I start winning* we can all share this scorched earth policy'. I firmly believe the covid situation, confined to homes, do it to save everyone's granny etc (and the two faced fall out from that) has only stoked the division further. People were pissed off before, but since - they aren't backward about letting you and everyone else know it.

I don't know how to fix it, I want the harm to be repairable, I hope the situation isn't as dire a place as it being a defining moment in history, those born before and thus after the covid restrictions.

Need Biden to play a blinder and kick trump and his cult up the arse. It'd be great after the fact (a two time loser and repeat convicted felon) to do a little jail time and have some of his assets stripped - not least his golf course in Scotland.

There's more on the line than simple gloating over the (possible) punishments of that con man though.
 
Zat, the reason why I wasn’t directly responding to your post, and instead copying the relevant bits into a quote without a link to the original, is that on my cell phone/ipad it is tiresome to delete the huge blocks of text that were your response to other posters. It isn’t as much of a issue when I am on a pc but I wasn’t. It is much easier when you just directly respond, as you kindly did here, especially with the numbering of points so thank you for that.

1) No, I genuinely cannot think of a Democrat developer in NYC. Real estate isn’t my forte and I live in California. Perhaps you can enlighten me on some developers, especially any who then turned their attention to politics?

2) I don’t think I ever claimed to have any experience in commercial real estate! Which is why I asked “However is it truly standard practice to inflate square footage by 3 times as Trump did with his penthouse? Perhaps you can give examples of people who did that who weren’t charged?”.

I do however presume that the judge did some homework on the issue. You keep on saying that he is wrong but offering no evidence that what Trump did is standard practice.

3) You had posted “In the recent trial since when are NDAs useless unless the court approves them? ”. That is why I brought up Weinstein and how he used them to silence his victims but that it still didn’t stop him from eventually being convicted and the NDAs being used in evidence. You have in this most recent post also brought up NDAs “ ...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court” so you seem to think them relevant?

I do too as it happens. I think that having the NDA suggested to the jury that Trump did indeed sleep with Daniels and was trying to cover it up. Trump’s lawyer during the trial continued to say that Trump did not sleep with Daniels, just that he had written an NDA and paid her $130k for…..tbh I’m not quite sure what alternate reason he gave for Trump paying a random porn star that he claimed never to have met that amount of money.

4) No I am not “ admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidencee”.

I am “admiting one person is not guilty as hes hid the evidence”. Notice the absence of the words “he’s a democrat”?

I personally believe that John Edwards was guilty of the same thing that Trump did. And I also believe one of the reasons why a jury did not unanimously find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt is that he did not leave a financial trail behind him. I also think the defense lawyer went with a much smarter strategy of “yes he slept with her, he’s an utter sleaze ball but he didn’t do anything criminal”.

Juries are asked to make their decisions on evidence and a paper trail of 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger entries is a pretty big one which you constantly avoid admitting.

1: Thats my point, I'm not 'attacking' anyone here you know :)

How has Trump been the only one brought up on this charge?

As you say, no-one else democrat or republican comes to mind...or even Mr Smith.

Reason being that the charge(s) was ridiculous.

That is why many wealthy entrpreneurs are looking at this and thinking "am i next".

2: The judge seemed totally clueless. From property valuations, tax laws and most amusingly the fact he even distrusted the significant amount of cash placed into a bank -- a US one no less -- showing concern that the funds could me lost in the markets :)

On the penthouse topic, some things for you to mull over:

A: The penthouse was owned by one of the biggest celebrities in the US, one of the most well known in the world. This carries a premium -- just as buying autographs, or owning the home of Elvis, Michael Jackson or whoever -- some people would pay above asking.

B: As its a branded residence (the brand being Trump) there is a 30% average premium across the market. Thats globally recognised.

C: Trump admitted the figures were 'loose' and 'guesstimates'. When you go to a bank for a loan against property they will themselves appraise the value. In this case they didnt -- ask yourself why? Also, ask yourself, why didnt they complain when the democrats brought this up? Why did they want to continue doing business with Trump and his companies?

The reason is they wanted the business. I have a interest in real estate and its different case by case e.g you can find places that calculate based on land value.

Others of course have premiums based on unit size, views, floor, branding and you can also value as a business based upon revenue (rent and future growth).

I believe in NYC it is typically done on comparable sales prices (same as California) but in this case none are comparable because his carries a premium.

If you watch the agents on the NYC & LA property shows you will frequently see sellers overprice their units. Despite knowing the comparables -- developers also frequently price units vastly higher than the building next door.

This is why its usually a misdemeanor in the US as everyone does it...everyone overvalues their belongings.

The whole thing looks a total mess to me and clearly (as he admitted) his figures were incorrect based on the letter of the law -- but why didnt the bank appraiser do their job? I can pick out a few places where i live and know their values...to a very close degree.

Why didnt the bank negotiate or argue?

Why havent the other developers and home owners that have overvalued property been brought up on similar charges?

That is why I think it is totally ridiculous. From it being the political oppsition driving it, to the bizarre and clueless judge to the charges -- its a joke.

3: I believe that an NDA is between 2 partys. Once both sign -- its set in stone. Like giving your word.

Yes, in the case of Weinstein the crimes were extremely serious...in murder or such situations where its an extreme level of law breaking there can be a case for a judge breaking an NDA.

If however, a judge is going to deem any NDAs irrelevant on a whim then it is ridiculous and any entrepreneur will look at NYC and wonder...

4: If lets say Trump didnt sleep with the porn star but simply paid her off as he could afford to and it would harm his reputation if she broadcast her lies publically and also upset his wife...

...perhaps he chose to do that?

I believe this isnt a one off and many others have done the same.

You believe he did, you also believe the other chap did yet one was punished.

A porn star was first providing details (NDA?) and then now in the trial she inferred that she was in pain or suchlike afterwards....its just not believable to me.

The point being that there is a paper trail of payments (or not) doesnt prove the action.



And that in itself is a political attack on Biden?

Ummm... That sounds familiar. 🤔

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When i mentioned Goebbles in another thread it was called "distasteful"...

Zat and dyslexicbleu should start their own podcast

There are too many online to compete with.

Like calling people who oppose him 'fascists'.

Fascists are those who silence their opposition no?

Like the ones who imprisoned Mandela...

Interesting side you have chosen.
 


Something to amuse you a little this Sunday evening.


Until of course you realise he's going to be back with his tiny hands on the nuclear football come January


I know I shouldn't but is he railing against boats with batteries below sea level because they could short out if there's a leak and shark attacks are on the rise.
So elecric boats are a major issues because of shark attacks?

How does anyone want this guy to be in charge again?

He's saying

A: Youre alone in a boat with a powerful battery.

B: The running battery suddenly drops into the water

C: You're wondering whether to stay in the boat, stuck. Or jump in the water and swim though you may be electrocuted.

D: Then you see a Shark nearby. You remember there have been lots of shark attacks recently.

Does seeing this Shark now change your decision for 'C' ?

Its that simple.
 
He's saying

A: Youre alone in a boat with a powerful battery.

B: The running battery suddenly drops into the water

C: You're wondering whether to stay in the boat, stuck. Or jump in the water and swim though you may be electrocuted.

D: Then you see a Shark nearby. You remember there have been lots of shark attacks recently.

Does seeing this Shark now change your decision for 'C' ?

Its that simple.
I agree mate, it’s very dignified Presidential behaviour to make up improbable scenarios such as this. Can’t believe so many posters on here can’t see how right you are to support this man. Wise words from Trump, and definitely not the work of an unhinged lunatic.
 
If I'm being honest, I had no idea that visitor numbers, roughly the size of the population of the UK visited NYC in 2023. Clearly an incredibly popular city.

In line with the theme of the thread i purposely chose this website & the numbers should match other websites...

I wonder why alot of people are going to NYC...


As you say "an incredibly popular city" $12billion reasons why.

Here is a 'friendly' website


As you can see, visitor numbers dropped compared to Trump but costs have increased across the board.

One reason being the demand for hotel rooms :)

The other reason this is a bad thing is because inflation has increased so much under Biden:

Another 'friendly' website https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...heck-biden-inflation-when-he-became-president

One more: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tru...tion-top-issue-voters-poll/story?id=110343680


On the one hand there are less visitors in NYC who are spending more due to there being less hotel rooms (supply/demand) and increased inflation.

On the other hand, stats point at household incomes being higher under Trump with people on average having more money in their pocket due to lower inflation :)

I suppose the best way to ensure people are happy with more money in their pockets and companies want to do business in the US...is to:

 
He's saying

A: Youre alone in a boat with a powerful battery.

B: The running battery suddenly drops into the water

C: You're wondering whether to stay in the boat, stuck. Or jump in the water and swim though you may be electrocuted.

D: Then you see a Shark nearby. You remember there have been lots of shark attacks recently.

Does seeing this Shark now change your decision for 'C' ?

Its that simple.
So. you watched his shark/electric boat ramble and didnt think it was weird?
 
In line with the theme of the thread i purposely chose this website & the numbers should match other websites...

I wonder why alot of people are going to NYC...


As you say "an incredibly popular city" $12billion reasons why.

Here is a 'friendly' website


As you can see, visitor numbers dropped compared to Trump but costs have increased across the board.

One reason being the demand for hotel rooms :)

The other reason this is a bad thing is because inflation has increased so much under Biden:

Another 'friendly' website https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...heck-biden-inflation-when-he-became-president

One more: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tru...tion-top-issue-voters-poll/story?id=110343680


On the one hand there are less visitors in NYC who are spending more due to there being less hotel rooms (supply/demand) and increased inflation.

On the other hand, stats point at household incomes being higher under Trump with people on average having more money in their pocket due to lower inflation :)

I suppose the best way to ensure people are happy with more money in their pockets and companies want to do business in the US...is to:


ah, the inflation theory. Inflation is higher under Biden than Trump....A series of compounding issues such as rising energy and food prices, fiscal instability in the wake of the pandemic, and consumer insecurity have created a new global recession, and global inflation in 2023 is estimated to have reached 6.9 percent. This is the highest annual increase in inflation since 1996.

It is nothing to do with Biden.

Try again
 
How?

ask yourself why? Also, ask yourself, why ? Why?

but why? .

Why?

Why?

...perhaps?

This entire post is just typical rabbit-hole conspiracy theory "do your own research" nonsense. Instead of just firing these questions into the ether, go and read the court transcripts or the full judge's decision in the NY civil case for some education. Fox News have even uploaded it, just in case you worry about some sort of liberal media bias:

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf

But yeah, tell us more about how the Judge "seemed totally clueless", maybe he needs to sit down one weekend and binge all the "NYC & LA property shows" so he can fully understand how the luxury property market works. That's the real source of information a court needs, not expert witnesses willing to have their testimony on the record, but telegenic agents hyping everything up for dramatic effect to chase ratings.

Unbelieveable that anyone debases themselves like this just to defend Trump.
 
So. you watched his shark/electric boat ramble and didnt think it was weird?

I'm still trying to picture step B where your boat's powerful battery suddenly just drops into the water. Is there not some obvious way to engineer around that problem, like having it inside the boat?

Of course! I'd overlooked that this boat is probably designed by Tesla. All bets are off.
 
This entire post is just typical rabbit-hole conspiracy theory "do your own research" nonsense. Instead of just firing these questions into the ether, go and read the court transcripts or the full judge's decision in the NY civil case for some education. Fox News have even uploaded it, just in case you worry about some sort of liberal media bias:

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf

But yeah, tell us more about how the Judge "seemed totally clueless", maybe he needs to sit down one weekend and binge all the "NYC & LA property shows" so he can fully understand how the luxury property market works. That's the real source of information a court needs, not expert witnesses willing to have their testimony on the record, but telegenic agents hyping everything up for dramatic effect to chase ratings.

Unbelieveable that anyone debases themselves like this just to defend Trump.

Like a 20 year experienced Democrat banker who also cant see any victim in the case and mentions


"I was a banker for more than 20 years. My positions included commercial loan officer and vice president. Without exception, for anyone applying for a large loan who shows real estate holdings as a major asset, appraisals are required.

Since the banks in question were paid, I fail to understand who the victims are in this case"

Can you post the bank appraisals?

Perhaps provide some context with your experience of working in a bank?

How about showing comparable trials where this has happened previously in NYC with the same punishment and legal process?


Instead, you post a transcript.

Its clear you have no knowledge of real estate markets.
 
ah, the inflation theory. Inflation is higher under Biden than Trump....A series of compounding issues such as rising energy and food prices, fiscal instability in the wake of the pandemic, and consumer insecurity have created a new global recession, and global inflation in 2023 is estimated to have reached 6.9 percent. This is the highest annual increase in inflation since 1996.

It is nothing to do with Biden.

Try again

Global?

Asia: Japan, China, Korea, Indonesia and Saudi I'll throw in as well.

Nah!
 
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