Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[LostLegend]

Yeah, pretty convinced there’s at least a couple of WUMS in this thread now. Either that or paid troll farm provocateurs just trying (poorly) to muddy the waters.

Far too much evasion and repetition of already disproven facts for these jokers to be serious.

 

[dylsexicbleu]

Including you presumably?

Nope. Unless I misspoke my point throughout this thread has been that it's a politically motivated indictment. That a President has fairly broad powers on declassification and also what he holds onto after office. That what Trump has done here is similar to other former presidents. None of these Presidents are being indicted for their refusal to give back documents. Anyone thinking that every former President immediately gave the contested documents back are wrong. There is a process, a process that can usually take years. Some may still be ongoing.

 

[Johnnytotal]

I mean let's be honest here. He will be pardoned. With who he is and what he knows, there is no way he sees any kind of meaningful punishment. Probably other than he agrees to never run for office again.

The whole point right there.

 

[trueblue84]

Nope. Unless I misspoke my point throughout this thread has been that it's a politically motivated indictment. That a President has fairly broad powers on declassification and also what he holds onto after office. That what Trump has done here is similar to other former presidents. None of these Presidents are being indicted for their refusal to give back documents. Anyone thinking that every former President immediately gave the contested documents back are wrong. There is a process, a process that can usually take years. Some may still be ongoing.

Why does it matter? Is he any less guilty because of who reported him?

 

[Martin Alvito]

His profound stupidity is so normal to us now, you take for granted how much his tweets and general utterances could genuinely be those of a 12 year old child

So the thing is, it's been that bad over here for two decades, if not four. They just didn't get media attention until he rolled up.

 

[dylsexicbleu]

The law is blind to who instigates it. It takes an accusation, measures the available evidence and then makes a decision which is beyond reasonable doubt for criminal cases or on the balance of probabilities for civil cases. It doesn't matter if democrats are specifically trying to ruin trump. If he committed crimes and the evidence is there, he is guilty.

I didn't say you think trump should get away with it, but you seem irked that charges are being brought for something you believe others have done.

The law is blind? Alan Dershowitz tells a story of protesting at Selma during the civil rights protests. He was told by organizers NOT to spit on the sidewalk as he would be taken into arrested and prosecuted. Nah, law should be blind but often it is not.

When I pointed to what others former Presidents have done it I am not saying what these other former Presidents have done is illegal. I am saying it is invariably a blurry process and the statute/law on what a President can hold onto is not entirely clear. Which is why the National Archives and former Presidents so often disagree.

 

[Amw79]

I hope Trump’s defence is better than “but others have done it too”.

 

[Martin Alvito]

The law is blind? Alan Dershowitz tells a story of protesting at Selma during the civil rights protests. He was told by organizers NOT to spit on the sidewalk as he would be taken into arrested and prosecuted. Nah, law should be blind but often it is not.

When I pointed to what others former Presidents have done it I am not saying what these other former Presidents have done is illegal. I am saying it is invariably a blurry process and the statute/law on what a President can hold onto is not entirely clear. Which is why the National Archives and former Presidents so often disagree.

Look, the second you invoke Dershowitz you lose all credibility. It is what it is.

The only way you summon him in the present day is to defend a lost position. If the position isn't dead lost, you invoke someone else.

 

[Prevenger17]

The whole point right there.

 

[Wizard]

I hope Trump’s defence is better than “but others have done it too”.

I don't

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

The law is blind? Alan Dershowitz tells a story of protesting at Selma during the civil rights protests. He was told by organizers NOT to spit on the sidewalk as he would be taken into arrested and prosecuted. Nah, law should be blind but often it is not.

When I pointed to what others former Presidents have done it I am not saying what these other former Presidents have done is illegal. I am saying it is invariably a blurry process and the statute/law on what a President can hold onto is not entirely clear. Which is why the National Archives and former Presidents so often disagree.

Well that I can agree with you on. If he weren't a rich white dude with connections, he'd be in jail already, decades ago

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

The law is blind? Alan Dershowitz tells a story of protesting at Selma during the civil rights protests. He was told by organizers NOT to spit on the sidewalk as he would be taken into arrested and prosecuted. Nah, law should be blind but often it is not.

When I pointed to what others former Presidents have done it I am not saying what these other former Presidents have done is illegal. I am saying it is invariably a blurry process and the statute/law on what a President can hold onto is not entirely clear. Which is why the National Archives and former Presidents so often disagree.

Real question

Do you have any basis for defending your lord and savior other than whataboutism?

 

[verreauxi]

 

[dublinbluenose]

 

[LostLegend]

“This is highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this. This was done by the military and given to me.”

Absolutely roaring at this.