Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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TBF he is right - there really is not anyone (from fiction or history) who would take the 45% of the electorate that Trump owns away.

Imagine the post-Independence Day film situation where Trump is up against Bill Pullman, fresh from shooting down all the aliens. Would anyone here put money on the fighter pilot when millions of Democrat voters in the cities have been killed and Pullman has nuked Houston? We'd all be waking up one morning to find Trump (or Flaarg the Destroyer as he would no doubt have been revealed to be) back in the Oval Office.

I wrote a long personal story post about this, which is fantastically written. Then I realized that this is GOT.

I'll put this one this way, then: Nixon's hold on 60% of the American public was unbreakable until it wasn't. Then it cratered to 25%.

Even in this polarized environment, Trump can be driven into the low 30s.
 
I wrote a long personal story post about this, which is fantastically written. Then I realized that this is GOT.

I'll put this one this way, then: Nixon's hold on 60% of the American public was unbreakable until it wasn't. Then it cratered to 25%.

Even in this polarized environment, Trump can be driven into the low 30s.

I’d love to agree with you, but I can’t - Nixon and other politicians lost support because of what they did. Trump has already done worse than any predecessor did, and his hold on his base continues.
 
I’d love to agree with you, but I can’t - Nixon and other politicians lost support because of what they did. Trump has already done worse than any predecessor did, and his hold on his base continues.
Tend to agree with you unfortunately. Nixon lost all his support because at that point on time, everyone still largely accepted facts as facts, and when confronted with them his voters had no choice but to change their opinion of him. That’s not the case anymore. I don’t know that there’s anything Trump could do that his supporters won’t just decry as “fake news”.
 
Tend to agree with you unfortunately. Nixon lost all his support because at that point on time, everyone still largely accepted facts as facts, and when confronted with them his voters had no choice but to change their opinion of him. That’s not the case anymore. I don’t know that there’s anything Trump could do that his supporters won’t just decry as “fake news”.
It’s an entirely new age. With so many different information streams, people are more inclined to believe (or not) whatever they feel like.
If you’re pro gun ownership, why consider that gun regulations need tightened due to a specific shooting, when different ‘sources’ are stating that events were staged by ‘crisis actors’
 
I’d love to agree with you, but I can’t - Nixon and other politicians lost support because of what they did. Trump has already done worse than any predecessor did, and his hold on his base continues.

Harding might have been worse, though we don't have poll data on that one.

The polarization has made Trump's base more tenacious, but the right evidence would splinter his base. He'd keep most of his base, but that evidence would finish him as a political entity.

What would be needed is unambiguous evidence that he doesn't care about his base. As with Nixon, audio evidence would be best.
 
Tend to agree with you unfortunately. Nixon lost all his support because at that point on time, everyone still largely accepted facts as facts, and when confronted with them his voters had no choice but to change their opinion of him. That’s not the case anymore. I don’t know that there’s anything Trump could do that his supporters won’t just decry as “fake news”.
Key "everyone" in this case is the elected members of the Republican Party who were prepared to impeach Nixon should he not resign. Had they dug in their heels and defended him in spite of his transgressions, like today's GOP has done over and over and over again for TFG, it's entirely possible Nixon may have survived.
 
I wrote a long personal story post about this, which is fantastically written. Then I realized that this is GOT.

I'll put this one this way, then: Nixon's hold on 60% of the American public was unbreakable until it wasn't. Then it cratered to 25%.

Even in this polarized environment, Trump can be driven into the low 30s.
You hope.
Plenty of monkeys in the firing line,
Still no sign of the organ grinder.
But hey, he's probably busy gearing up for 2024.
 
You hope.
Plenty of monkeys in the firing line,
Still no sign of the organ grinder.
But hey, he's probably busy gearing up for 2024.

In candor, I don't think he wants to be president again.

I believe he only wanted to win re-election because it would have permitted him to run out the clock on the various allegations against him. The convention that a sitting U.S. president may not be prosecuted for misdeeds, interacted with statute of limitations, would have permitted him to walk.

He'd rather be a public figure not in the White House, all else equal. That said, his ego and the stigma of being a one-termer may get in the way, assuming his various legal defenses don't consume every dime he raises between now and 2023.
 
In candor, I don't think he wants to be president again.

I believe he only wanted to win re-election because it would have permitted him to run out the clock on the various allegations against him. The convention that a sitting U.S. president may not be prosecuted for misdeeds, interacted with statute of limitations, would have permitted him to walk.

He'd rather be a public figure not in the White House, all else equal. That said, his ego and the stigma of being a one-termer may get in the way, assuming his various legal defenses don't consume every dime he raises between now and 2023.
You'd never know with him, he's daft enough for anything.
But will he serve 1 day in the pokey? I doubt it.
 
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