Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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James1878 said:
Tough question. To avoid him Clinton would have been the obvious choice. But as I dislike the Clinton's possibly Stein. Dunno tough tough question. If I thought she had a real chance of winning in the swing states then Clinton. But part of me thinks she would have still fluffed it if we had known all we know now you know? Either way clinton and stein would have been a wasted vote lol

Now if it were Sanders and Trump then Sanders as that would have put a sting in Trumps tail and the say nothing do nothing part of my fellow conservatives even more so than Clinton winning.

Not.a fan of Sanders either but I see his appeal and why people like him. I actually thought he would be the candidate and would win
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Again thanks for the post. Your honesty is so refreshing.

Personally if the shoe was on the other foot, and we were discussing if I had to vote again because Clinton was a complete disaster on the same level. I think I would most definitely say abstain from voting.

I suspect there are many living in your shoes that would choose abstaining. If my hypothesis is right, abstention combined with people voting for Clinton or Stein instead would flip the battle ground states. The margins were so narrow in those states.

Again thanks for your honesty.
 
ilikecheese said:
Again thanks for the post. Your honesty is so refreshing.

Personally if the shoe was on the other foot, and we were discussing if I had to vote again because Clinton was a complete disaster on the same level. I think I would most definitely say abstain from voting.

I suspect there are many living in your shoes that would choose abstaining. If my hypothesis is right, abstention combined with people voting for Clinton or Stein instead would flip the battle ground states. The margins were so narrow in those states.

Again thanks for your honesty.
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I know several who abstained. I know several who voted for Stein also.

The thing is the idea that every conservative voted for him which Fox leads you to believe as does Breitbart is foolish. There are many divided conservative families especially among veterans.

I know a guy who's wife voted for Hilary and he was not best pleased. He found out after the fact it actually got them talking divorce lol. At the time we thought it was funny but really i could see it now. More for her really and fair play to her. They had always voted conservative as long as they have been together.

The ones who abstained gave me more crap for voting for him and in hindsight i should have listened lol.

That's what irks me when i see people on here especially from my own side of the isle, if you want to say, that pretending that its all roses and that their wasn't a split and some desertion from quarters.

Now the people i know are not all Californians they are spread around before someone decides to tell me that would be typical of Californians to turn liberal.

The thing is is what these people including myself will do next election. There is definitely going to be tough choices and probably more jumps. If the GOP thinks it will be as strong they may be surprised.

What's interesting is that a lot of young first time voters growing up in conservative families are making up their own mind and in many cases some friends of mine were peeved and some upset that their kids may vote the opposite. I would be proud of my children regardless what they choose personally as its their decision and its not easy.

I will tell you the first time i didn't vote for a Republican was in the last congressional batch. I voted for the Democrat Levin because the Republican Diane Harkey is a crook and in bed with the oil companies looking to drill more of Southern California and she was ready to fight for them.

Anyway that's just my two cents.
 
James1878 said:
Says the guy obsessive about getting into it with the posters in here.

Sick of fellow conservatives taking the high and mighty and thinking the left is always the issue and getting one of on liberals is the order of the day.

If people want to talk negative about Trump in a thread about Trump then what's your issue? If you don't like it stay out.

Attacking other people just to call them names is what's wrong with the times we live in.

I voted for Trump in fact i have voted conservative all of my adult life. Recently though its just mental what the GOP has become and the step fellow conservatives take to deny we have issues in this country especially with the man in charge.

It's mad my own friends and some of my family now say i am liberal simply because i don't like Trump. Why is it we have to label people. What i see is a man out of his depth. A man who looks to have some sort of mental issue and who acts like a child.

I didn't like Obama but i did like some of the policies he put in place that protected parks and big industries from ruining them. In fact any of the environment ones he overturned are a disgrace. I have friends who love hiking and going camping and who are also conservative and when i point out he has possibly opened up the land they love for drilling they tell me i am wrong even if i point it out to them. They live in denial hey but as long as Trump got one over on Obama. Stupid.

Now he is changing the emissions standard in California which was previously allowed by the federal government. They simply ignored the standard set by this state. A standard that was adopted nearly everywhere else. Then he tries to explain it and he doesn't even know what he is talking about. How can you remove something if you do not understand it nor understand its impact. That's insane.

Fellow conservatives with their fingers in their ears or who simply say nothing need their heads examined. The party the love is being ruined by this guy and they are allowing the bigoted and stupidest mouthpieces from the far right take control via trump.

McConnell should be ashamed of himself. The worst troll of them all.

You don't have to be a liberal to see what's going on. If you disagree there is an issue you are in denial and you motives are clear.
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Where ?
 
blue4eva77 said:
Where ?
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You called many of the posters here Brainwashed zombies in the climate thread and then repeated the brainwashed part here.

You are not genuine.

You a purposely trying to stoke the fire to get a rise out of our friends on the left.

Leaving comments with no substance like

"LOL"

and

"Another 4 years of this fella. Exactly what America needs. Finally someone with a decent set of marble bags, tidying up from the atrocious administration before him "

and the smart ar** response like....

"We'll all be dead in 12 years anyway :oops: " in response to someone else.

You then went onto talk about AOC in great length by repeating the obsessed alt right views and versions off her and her mentality and intelligence. I too am not fond off her but that's where i would leave it. Insulting people to get a rise is exactly what is wrong.

You sound like nothing more than a soundbite for Fox news or Breitbart. Amazing how they have become the voice off reason on the right off late. Before you tell me you don't watch them, that's not my point. Your words are similar rhetoric that they spout.

I read back a lot of these pages to get to know the players and what gets posted in here. I am amazed that the voice off conservatism in this thread seemingly is a couple of actual American conservatives maybe oen or two Brits and then the likes of you. Who are carbon copies off each other.

Which is....

British, live or have lived in the US but mainly in Boston or Carolina or Florida,
Or it's the family in the US angle. Or maybe the couple of visits years ago.

Then it's the same exact same stuff coming from your keyboards. That my friend is why you guys get called a multi (which i have seen a lot reading back) or a bot (that's another popular one) or the same old brainwashed type.

It's sad that some who post supposedly for the right accusing the left of everything they can think off for example being brainwashed, being sheep, not intelligent, being snowflakes etc... will come into a thread where they are massively outnumbered and then act like they and only they know whats going on and everything they say is gospel and the left view are not. That's not how we all learned to debate is it? Agree to disagree and take it on the chin when someone calls you out. This constant bashing off each other is pathetic.

It's seemingly always the case that you have these supposed conservatives ( again with a very small few exceptions) who spout nonsense and quickly go on the defensive and lash out at everyone. Its embarrassing.

If our left friends want to bash the president so be it. You cannot say he doesn't deserve at least a good portion off what they say. If you disagree then you prove their point about being brainwashed or you are blissfully ignorant on purpose.

Honestly i don't understand this need to troll the left and fight them all off the time. Be civil mate. See their point and rebuttal.
 
ilikecheese said:
So lazy and expected.

No effort to refute and/or defend your opinion...rather cherry pick a single point of contention.

It's weird as F to think this way, abd it's an unhealthy mental state to live in.
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I've made my points, not just here but elsewhere.

I will state again...... and then i will leave it.

The utter state of the people in here mentioning the words ' Cult, Brainwashing, disgrace ' and the like is honestly disturbing. Its a constant narrative and extremely hypocritical which actually borders an ' unhealthy mental state '.... now that you've mentioned it yourself. Laughable you also mentioned the words cherry picking LOL.... This whole thread is a constant cherry picking of events with a complete ignorance to others

I agree with the lad above saying if i don't like it to stay out of the thread. That's a fair comment. The stench of the two faced posts in here is overwhelming.
 
James1878 said:
You called many of the posters here Brainwashed zombies in the climate thread and then repeated the brainwashed part here.

You are not genuine.

You a purposely trying to stoke the fire to get a rise out of our friends on the left.

Leaving comments with no substance like

"LOL"

and

"Another 4 years of this fella. Exactly what America needs. Finally someone with a decent set of marble bags, tidying up from the atrocious administration before him "

and the smart ar** response like....

"We'll all be dead in 12 years anyway :oops: " in response to someone else.

You then went onto talk about AOC in great length by repeating the obsessed alt right views and versions off her and her mentality and intelligence. I too am not fond off her but that's where i would leave it. Insulting people to get a rise is exactly what is wrong.

You sound like nothing more than a soundbite for Fox news or Breitbart. Amazing how they have become the voice off reason on the right off late. Before you tell me you don't watch them, that's not my point. Your words are similar rhetoric that they spout.

I read back a lot of these pages to get to know the players and what gets posted in here. I am amazed that the voice off conservatism in this thread seemingly is a couple of actual American conservatives maybe oen or two Brits and then the likes of you. Who are carbon copies off each other.

Which is....

British, live or have lived in the US but mainly in Boston or Carolina or Florida,
Or it's the family in the US angle. Or maybe the couple of visits years ago.

Then it's the same exact same stuff coming from your keyboards. That my friend is why you guys get called a multi (which i have seen a lot reading back) or a bot (that's another popular one) or the same old brainwashed type.

It's sad that some who post supposedly for the right accusing the left of everything they can think off for example being brainwashed, being sheep, not intelligent, being snowflakes etc... will come into a thread where they are massively outnumbered and then act like they and only they know whats going on and everything they say is gospel and the left view are not. That's not how we all learned to debate is it? Agree to disagree and take it on the chin when someone calls you out. This constant bashing off each other is pathetic.

It's seemingly always the case that you have these supposed conservatives ( again with a very small few exceptions) who spout nonsense and quickly go on the defensive and lash out at everyone. Its embarrassing.

If our left friends want to bash the president so be it. You cannot say he doesn't deserve at least a good portion off what they say. If you disagree then you prove their point about being brainwashed or you are blissfully ignorant on purpose.

Honestly i don't understand this need to troll the left and fight them all off the time. Be civil mate. See their point and rebuttal.
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In reply to a few calling those on the right or neutral brainwashed zombies.... hypocritical.
 
James1878 said:
You called many of the posters here Brainwashed zombies in the climate thread and then repeated the brainwashed part here.

You are not genuine.

You a purposely trying to stoke the fire to get a rise out of our friends on the left.

Leaving comments with no substance like

"LOL"

and

"Another 4 years of this fella. Exactly what America needs. Finally someone with a decent set of marble bags, tidying up from the atrocious administration before him "

and the smart ar** response like....

"We'll all be dead in 12 years anyway :oops: " in response to someone else.

You then went onto talk about AOC in great length by repeating the obsessed alt right views and versions off her and her mentality and intelligence. I too am not fond off her but that's where i would leave it. Insulting people to get a rise is exactly what is wrong.

You sound like nothing more than a soundbite for Fox news or Breitbart. Amazing how they have become the voice off reason on the right off late. Before you tell me you don't watch them, that's not my point. Your words are similar rhetoric that they spout.

I read back a lot of these pages to get to know the players and what gets posted in here. I am amazed that the voice off conservatism in this thread seemingly is a couple of actual American conservatives maybe oen or two Brits and then the likes of you. Who are carbon copies off each other.

Which is....

British, live or have lived in the US but mainly in Boston or Carolina or Florida,
Or it's the family in the US angle. Or maybe the couple of visits years ago.

Then it's the same exact same stuff coming from your keyboards. That my friend is why you guys get called a multi (which i have seen a lot reading back) or a bot (that's another popular one) or the same old brainwashed type.

It's sad that some who post supposedly for the right accusing the left of everything they can think off for example being brainwashed, being sheep, not intelligent, being snowflakes etc... will come into a thread where they are massively outnumbered and then act like they and only they know whats going on and everything they say is gospel and the left view are not. That's not how we all learned to debate is it? Agree to disagree and take it on the chin when someone calls you out. This constant bashing off each other is pathetic.

It's seemingly always the case that you have these supposed conservatives ( again with a very small few exceptions) who spout nonsense and quickly go on the defensive and lash out at everyone. Its embarrassing.

If our left friends want to bash the president so be it. You cannot say he doesn't deserve at least a good portion off what they say. If you disagree then you prove their point about being brainwashed or you are blissfully ignorant on purpose.

Honestly i don't understand this need to troll the left and fight them all off the time. Be civil mate. See their point and rebuttal.
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Excellent and articulate response, far more than such a disingenuous individual as that guy deserves
 
James1878 said:
You called many of the posters here Brainwashed zombies in the climate thread and then repeated the brainwashed part here.

You are not genuine.

You a purposely trying to stoke the fire to get a rise out of our friends on the left.

Leaving comments with no substance like

"LOL"

and

"Another 4 years of this fella. Exactly what America needs. Finally someone with a decent set of marble bags, tidying up from the atrocious administration before him "

and the smart ar** response like....

"We'll all be dead in 12 years anyway :oops: " in response to someone else.

You then went onto talk about AOC in great length by repeating the obsessed alt right views and versions off her and her mentality and intelligence. I too am not fond off her but that's where i would leave it. Insulting people to get a rise is exactly what is wrong.

You sound like nothing more than a soundbite for Fox news or Breitbart. Amazing how they have become the voice off reason on the right off late. Before you tell me you don't watch them, that's not my point. Your words are similar rhetoric that they spout.

I read back a lot of these pages to get to know the players and what gets posted in here. I am amazed that the voice off conservatism in this thread seemingly is a couple of actual American conservatives maybe oen or two Brits and then the likes of you. Who are carbon copies off each other.

Which is....

British, live or have lived in the US but mainly in Boston or Carolina or Florida,
Or it's the family in the US angle. Or maybe the couple of visits years ago.

Then it's the same exact same stuff coming from your keyboards. That my friend is why you guys get called a multi (which i have seen a lot reading back) or a bot (that's another popular one) or the same old brainwashed type.

It's sad that some who post supposedly for the right accusing the left of everything they can think off for example being brainwashed, being sheep, not intelligent, being snowflakes etc... will come into a thread where they are massively outnumbered and then act like they and only they know whats going on and everything they say is gospel and the left view are not. That's not how we all learned to debate is it? Agree to disagree and take it on the chin when someone calls you out. This constant bashing off each other is pathetic.

It's seemingly always the case that you have these supposed conservatives ( again with a very small few exceptions) who spout nonsense and quickly go on the defensive and lash out at everyone. Its embarrassing.

If our left friends want to bash the president so be it. You cannot say he doesn't deserve at least a good portion off what they say. If you disagree then you prove their point about being brainwashed or you are blissfully ignorant on purpose.

Honestly i don't understand this need to troll the left and fight them all off the time. Be civil mate. See their point and rebuttal.
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Great post.
 
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