Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I figured, but was hoping not. Simple majority was doable.
Clinton would have been kicked out of it were. He had something like 59 senators vote to convict.

It's meant to be bipartisan to keep the president in check. The founders never accounted for (well, ANY political party at all really, Washington even warned against them in his departure speech) being so completely gone with being both completely corrupt and complicit
 


There is an outside chance that the Democrats have been baited into this though. If there is nothing and they're yelling "IMPEACH!" then they're going to look pretty bloody stupid pretty bloody quickly.

That said, it really is the 'outsidiest' of outside chances there is. I'm just baffled as to why Trump would release it - an attempt to control the narrative perhaps?
 
I dont think the phone call in itself is the damning evidence, more the $400million in military aid that was agreed by congress but witheld by Trump just a week before the call.
The money itself seems to be kinda weird - as I understand it Congress authorized $250 million but Ukraine now claim tthey are getting some extra and I haven’t seem any explanations for where that appeared from.

Oh, and coincidentally enough? That military aid to Ukraine was released just two days after the congressional probe was announced. And then on Sept. 13, the day that Schiff made his subpoena public, Zelensky said that Ukraine was actually getting an extra $140 million in aid.
 
There is an outside chance that the Democrats have been baited into this though. If there is nothing and they're yelling "IMPEACH!" then they're going to look pretty bloody stupid pretty bloody quickly.

That said, it really is the 'outsidiest' of outside chances there is. I'm just baffled as to why Trump would release it - an attempt to control the narrative perhaps?
The Inspector General, a Trump appointee, saying that he believed the complaint was both urgent and credible and then the DNI blocking it would suggest that it isn’t a wild goose chase but I guess we’ll see.

Barr releasing his interpretation of the Mueller report worked for Trump so yes I think they are running the same play here to control the narrative especially as they will have a lot more leeway to pick and choose what to include and a large part of their supporters are already OK with “ask a foreign government for help against a rival” anyway.
 
There is an outside chance that the Democrats have been baited into this though. If there is nothing and they're yelling "IMPEACH!" then they're going to look pretty bloody stupid pretty bloody quickly.

That said, it really is the 'outsidiest' of outside chances there is. I'm just baffled as to why Trump would release it - an attempt to control the narrative perhaps?
It's entirely possible that they have seen they can do things with impunity because nobody has done anything so far. As such they decide to use the Ukraine (which I honestly don't understand why they are even involved with this as they hate Putin) to manufacture something/nothing that the Democratic party is OUTRAGED by.

But he cant even spell hamburger correctly, that would be some 43d Stein play there
 
It's entirely possible that they have seen they can do things with impunity because nobody has done anything so far. As such they decide to use the Ukraine (which I honestly don't understand why they are even involved with this as they hate Putin) to manufacture something/nothing that the Democratic party is OUTRAGED by.

But he cant even spell hamburger correctly, that would be some 43d Stein play there

Yeah but Obama ordered a burger with Dijon mustard that one time. Should have been impeached immediately. It was a national disgrace when he wore a tan suit.
 
It's entirely possible that they have seen they can do things with impunity because nobody has done anything so far. As such they decide to use the Ukraine (which I honestly don't understand why they are even involved with this as they hate Putin) to manufacture something/nothing that the Democratic party is OUTRAGED by.

But he cant even spell hamburger correctly, that would be some 43d Stein play there
There is an element of “frog in hot water” here. Forget the possible US aid/quid pro quo aspect for a moment - any other president who had made a call to a head of a foreign government and asked them to launch an investigation into a family member of a political rival would be roundly condemned on all sides. Just imagine Obama even hinting to say Japan in the run up to the election that Jarad Kushner’s dealings should be examined let alone a criminal investigation coordinated with his personal lawyer!
 
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