Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[verreauxi]

Unbelievably irresponsible journalism. This kind of fear-mongering could lead to him being murdered. The worst thing about that is you'd even get democrats happy about the possibility of that happening, rather than them rallying and getting a half decent candidate for the upcoming election campaign to try and defeat him in a legal way.

Certainly you would agree that the left/Democrats in the USA can't control what is published in a country where Trump's ancestors came from, despite that country knowing more about the ills of fascism than most other countries in the last 70 years or so. More substantively, whether Trump gets reelected has nothing to do with how and where moral boundaries are drawn between right and wrong.

 

[verreauxi]

But the basic point is this: I don't consider it a coincidence that selfish, rude behavior that would have been considered downright bizarre a few years ago has erupted in everyday life subsequent to the election of someone that has violated virtually every norm of selfishness and rudeness associated with the highest office in the land.

One measure of the decrease in civility is that reported Hate Crimes have increased for their third year straight since 2015 (2018 data isn't shown, but it has gone up). The key is to determine if there is an increase in reporting or a true increase in Trump-related rhetoric, particularly since unreported hate-crimes, those found out by retroactive surveys, against individuals (but not businesses or organizations) have gone down in the last few years. See here, especially Appendix 3.

 

[nsno-chris]

New York isn't a patch on London when it comes to bad manners. Can only speak from personal experience, but we could learn a lot this side of the Atlantic from Americans when it comes to being well-mannered and courteous to people.

Oh I know I hate London, but relating pure ignorance in a drive thru to Trump being charge is pyar bullshit

 

[Wizard]

Off topic I know but I’ve lived in London for 22 years now and while it has its problems it’s nothing like what is reported or thought of. I still identify as a Scouser first (I moved away when I was 6 months old but pretty much all my family are still in Liverpool) but I love London as a City and there is so much great stuff about it.

I’ve spent a lot of time in the US and New York especially, and Americans are on the whole wonderful people to meet as a foreigner.

But London is also a great city and the people here are largely really nice and welcoming. It’s something that really annoys me about people making judgements on a place with very little experience of it. I have it loads with my friends down here talking about Liverpool when most of them have never even been to the city.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Off topic I know but I’ve lived in London for 22 years now and while it has its problems it’s nothing like what is reported or thought of. I still identify as a Scouser first (I moved away when I was 6 months old but pretty much all my family are still in Liverpool) but I love London as a City and there is so much great stuff about it.

I’ve spent a lot of time in the US and New York especially, and Americans are on the whole wonderful people to meet as a foreigner.

But London is also a great city and the people here are largely really nice and welcoming. It’s something that really annoys me about people making judgements on a place with very little experience of it. I have it loads with my friends down here talking about Liverpool when most of them have never even been to the city.

Parts of downtown LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Philadelphia etc etc are far more impoverished than anything London has to offer. Always think it’s crazy when American commentators talk about no go zones and the like. Never seen anything close to that over here.

 

[Wizard]

Parts of downtown LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Philadelphia etc etc are far more impoverished than anything London has to offer. Always think it’s crazy when American commentators talk about no go zones and the like. Never seen anything close to that over here.

There’s a very depressing narrative going on in the UK at the moment about the state of London. Obviously the stabbings we’ve had are horrible. But Trump saying London is dangerous and there are no go zones is pathetic. Our homicide rate is nothing compared to pretty much every major US city.

And while he rags of our mayor, he doesn’t take into account the fact that massive police cuts are part of the problem. Wonder who decided to bring those cuts in?

 

[verreauxi]

Off topic I know but I’ve lived in London for 22 years now and while it has its problems it’s nothing like what is reported or thought of. I still identify as a Scouser first (I moved away when I was 6 months old but pretty much all my family are still in Liverpool) but I love London as a City and there is so much great stuff about it.

I’ve spent a lot of time in the US and New York especially, and Americans are on the whole wonderful people to meet as a foreigner.

But London is also a great city and the people here are largely really nice and welcoming. It’s something that really annoys me about people making judgements on a place with very little experience of it. I have it loads with my friends down here talking about Liverpool when most of them have never even been to the city.

I just spent four months living in London; it is a fabulous city and everyone I've interacted with was highly courteous. I tried to go to all parts of it, and never had an issue with any area/neighborhood (except at the Millwall/Everton match, where my friend and I had broken glass thrown on us), but all other times I went to Millwall it was great.

 

[Ruairi77]

*Dusts off MAGA hat

USA USA USA USA USA

You got dust on your MAGA hat??!! You should go back where you came from

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[RAFUH]

lol

 

[verreauxi]

Unprecedented moves by our president into fascist territory, particularly for a country who's narrative is freedom, democracy, and the melting pot. Yet people here still defend him with whataboutism, or they try and make excuses for his easy-documented racism and sexism, or they overlook his business incompetence, or his ineptness at running a country, or his easily-verifiable corruption. I'm not sure what is more inexcusable--their defense of Trump in light of all his damaging, hurtful policies--or their spineless "I'm actually a centrist, and don't really support him...BUT [fill in with whataboutism or some weak-policy achievement that hasn't made a dime-difference to the USA]"

I suppose one achievement he has accomplished is curtailing healthcare and abortions for poor women, so if that's your thing then hey, congrats.

 

[Death]

He's very presidential and well mannered. I like him. Pity he's in Trump's administration atm.

 

[verreauxi]

Unprecedented moves by our president into fascist territory, particularly for a country who's narrative is freedom, democracy, and the melting pot. Yet people here still defend him with whataboutism, or they try and make excuses for his easy-documented racism and sexism, or they overlook his business incompetence, or his ineptness at running a country, or his easily-verifiable corruption. I'm not sure what is more inexcusable--their defense of Trump in light of all his damaging, hurtful policies--or their spineless "I'm actually a centrist, and don't really support him...BUT [fill in with whataboutism or some weak-policy achievement that hasn't made a dime-difference to the USA]"

I suppose one achievement he has accomplished is curtailing healthcare and abortions for poor women, so if that's your thing then hey, congrats.

As one example of what I'm talking about when folks defend Trump, they will sometimes point to his "success" in North Korea. But this flies in the face that South Koreans feel better about their livelihoods with Trump in the White House--they have little confidence in him. Witness the poll summary by the Pew Research Foundation below:

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From polls conducted in 37 countries, the Pew study finds that international confidence in the U.S. president has dropped from 64 percent at the end of the Obama presidency to 22 percent at the beginning of Trump’s. South Koreans do not buck the trend. When asked if they have confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing regarding world affairs, 88 percent of South Koreans responded positively during the end of the Obama years while only 17 percent expressed the same confidence in Trump — below the global median of 22 percent. Of the 37 countries polled, this 71 percentage point swing was the fourth largest, behind Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany. The 78 percent of South Koreans who definitively answered they had no confidence in Trump is the highest among the countries polled in Asia (the others are Japan, Australia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, and India) and is above the global median of 74 percent. Further, when asked about Trump’s major policy shifts, 78 percent disapproved of withdrawing from international climate change agreements and 80 percent disapproved of U.S. withdrawal of support for major trade agreements.
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Certainly if bringing stability to the region is Trump's goal he has most definitely not succeeded. And North Korea isn't one iota closer to destroying and/or curtailing the development of nuclear weapons. So exactly what is gained by one wannabe-dictator courting the favor of another dictator? And exactly what is gained by trying to defend his lack of diplomatic progress in this region?

 

[Death]

I think Bernie would destroy Trump. And from Bernie it only goes further left in futir elections if he does a good job. One day we could see the abolishment of the private ownership of the means of production. One can dream.