Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[abelard]

A dying industry loses its last shards of credibility, and for what? We need an aggressive press we can rely on no matter who is President, but this pretty much puts the end to the game, at least as long as this guy is in the White House. People know that the folks on that squawk box will say anything to bring him down, because any means are necessary and evidence is a luxury. It didn't have to be like this.

Are we reading Victor Davis Hanson? Ben Shapiro? Kurt Schlichter? Nope.

Matt Taibbi. Here's the whole thing.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

the Matt Taibbi piece is good, and everybody, especially in this thread, should read it.

on the other hand, if you want to take @mezzrow even less seriously than you do now, take his advice and look at what Victor Davis Hanson, Ben Shapiro, or Kurt Schlichter actually write

when you cite these as alternatives to failed liberal journalism, all you are really doing is saying that you avoid Rachel Maddow not because you want the truth and she distorts it, but because the lies she tells are different from the lies you prefer to believe instead

really mezzrow, Kurt Schlichter? you're smarter than that

 

[mezzrow]

the Matt Taibbi piece is good, and everybody, especially in this thread, should read it.

on the other hand, if you want to take @mezzrow even less seriously than you do now, take his advice and look at what Victor Davis Hanson, Ben Shapiro, or Kurt Schlichter actually write

when you cite these as alternatives to failed liberal journalism, all you are really doing is saying that you avoid Rachel Maddow not because you want the truth and she distorts it, but because the lies she tells are different from the lies you prefer to believe instead

really mezzrow, Kurt Schlichter? you're smarter than that

I read a very wide window of input. What Taibbi wrote I would have expected from one of the three I mentioned, as it tracks what they have been saying. He's no "wingnut" and he sees the damage the press has done to itself, its future, and our nation by its actions over the past two years plus. It was nice having a credible adversarial press. I'm going to miss them. These other guys sell a lot of books, you know.

It's going to be a bumpy ride. Strap in.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Sooooo... What did Cher say?

Haha. No idea, not my timeline. But probably something about how she believes in life after love. lol

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

If Mueller had held everything back - no public statements, no charges etc, then yesterday had dropped 34 indictments, including against Trump's lawyer, his campaign manager and deputy campaign manager, his national security advisor and a member of his foreign policy team, the narrative would be VERY different and the White House would be in absolute turmoil.

Amazing how quickly people forget.

 

[Bluetooth]

If Mueller had held everything back - no public statements, no charges etc, then yesterday had dropped 34 indictments, including against Trump's lawyer, his campaign manager and deputy campaign manager, his national security advisor and a member of his foreign policy team, the narrative would be VERY different and the White House would be in absolute turmoil.

Amazing how quickly people forget.

Goal posts starting to move.

If, if, if.
Criminal investigations/prosecutions rely on evidence.

If it's not there, it's not there.

As mentioned previously, it's surely a good thing.

Why do some want it so bad for Trump to be guilty ?

 

[verreauxi]

Goal posts starting to move.

If, if, if.
Criminal investigations/prosecutions rely on evidence.

If it's not there, it's not there.

As mentioned previously, it's surely a good thing.

Why do some want it so bad for Trump to be guilty ?

34 indictments/guilty pleas by folks in the Trump administration. Exactly what is “not there”?

 

[Bluetooth]

Anything relating to charges against Trump.

I'm sure if Mueller spent two solid years investigating other campaigns they'd be similar charges. Whether the same amount, unlikely but let's not be naive to think those with questionable and illegal dealings etc associating themselves with politicians only came about since 2016

 

[glorydaze]

Anything relating to charges against Trump.

I'm sure if Mueller spent two solid years investigating other campaigns they'd be similar charges. Whether the same amount, unlikely but let's not be naive to think those with questionable and illegal dealings etc associating themselves with politicians only came about since 2016

Muellers mandate was to investigate links/ co ordination between Russia and the campaign and any other crimes arising from it, not Trump specifically. He delivered to date 34 indictments.

 

[Bluetooth]

Muellers mandate was to investigate links/ co ordination between Russia and the campaign and any other crimes arising from it, not Trump specifically. He delivered to date 34 indictments.

Exactly.

Which is why I don't see the need for the continual outrage relating to Trump specifically and that there appears no evidence of what he has been accused of relentlessly for two years of.

How much of the indictments relate to collusion with Russia ?
Because the strongly held belief by the Democrats of this being why Trump won is what started this all.

 

[glorydaze]

Exactly.

Which is why I don't see the need for the continual outrage relating to Trump specifically and that there appears no evidence of what he has been accused of relentlessly for two years of.

How much of the indictments relate to collusion with Russia ?
Because the strongly held belief by the Democrats of this being why Trump won is what started this all.

I believe Trump knew about it all. Having the proof is another matter.

 

[dandydan]

Having fun still not winning?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Goal posts starting to move.

If, if, if.
Criminal investigations/prosecutions rely on evidence.

If it's not there, it's not there.

As mentioned previously, it's surely a good thing.

Why do some want it so bad for Trump to be guilty ?

I don’t, much as I dislike him and his politicies I’d genuinely prefer it if it is found that he had no involvement or knowledge of Russian meddling in the election as the president being beholden to Putin is not healthy for the nation.

However I can’t think any other logical reason for all the campaign meetings with Russians - it is rare for campaign staff to meet any foreign government reps let alone a hostile one that they they know is hacking their competitor. How many meetings with UK, German or Mexican reps did the campaign have - countries that are our allies and trading partners? Why over 100 with Russians?

i also can’t think why, if the meetings were above board, why all the lying about them and changing stories about the purpose and content. Or the frankly supine stance that Trump takes with Putin, claiming to believe him that they were not responsible for the hacking over his entire intelligence department and his continued slow-walking of any sanctions for the election interference.

 

[sdk]

Which is why I don't see the need for the continual outrage relating to Trump specifically and that there appears no evidence of what he has been accused of relentlessly for two years of.

Outrage over the Trump presidency isn't a product of the Mueller investigation. It's a product of Trump's conduct as president.

 

[sdk]

Having fun still not winning?

Boiling all your political principles down to the need to TRIGGER THE LIBS!!1! must feel very liberating. Best wishes for your convalescence.

 

[verreauxi]

Exactly.

Which is why I don't see the need for the continual outrage relating to Trump specifically and that there appears no evidence of what he has been accused of relentlessly for two years of.

How much of the indictments relate to collusion with Russia ?
Because the strongly held belief by the Democrats of this being why Trump won is what started this all.

You sound exactly like Toffy? Be better please.