Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Ruairi77]

This is one of the more annoying tropes of modern politics. All Putin is doing what any Russian leader would have done at any point in Russian history when faced with a threat, which is what NATO being in control of Ukraine is and what Clinton promising to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria was. His "rise" is nothing more than his refusal to blindly go along with whatever self-destructive and hypocritical idiocy the West comes up with.

Another annoying trope is to suggest that Putin is merely a good statesman looking out for his citizens safety.
The truth is somewhere in the middle and at that point you've got to use your judgement. And I think Putin is one of the most dangerous dictators going. To Putin, the best form of defense is attack and if I lived on his western front, I'd be concerned.

 

[Ruairi77]

My Question is if the result went the other way (by the same results) would this be happening? I don't believe for 1 minute that it would!!

If the Russians had hacked Bannon and the RNC, then yea, I think the exact same situation would be playing out had Trump lost by a narrow margin in certain key states.
In fact, had Trump won the popular vote by 2m+ and lost the electoral college. who know's what would be going on right now. One thing's for sure, he wouldn't sit back and do nothing.

 

[TheFinnFan]

If the Russians had hacked Bannon and the RNC, then yea, I think the exact same situation would be playing out had Trump lost by a narrow margin in certain key states.
In fact, had Trump won the popular vote by 2m+ and lost the electoral college. who know's what would be going on right now. One thing's for sure, he wouldn't sit back and do nothing.

And thats your justification...jeez..if if and if

 

[JLW]

If the Russians had hacked Bannon and the RNC, then yea, I think the exact same situation would be playing out had Trump lost by a narrow margin in certain key states.
In fact, had Trump won the popular vote by 2m+ and lost the electoral college. who know's what would be going on right now. One thing's for sure, he wouldn't sit back and do nothing.

I think Clinton and Co are not that concerned about what he may do regarding world affairs when/if he takes the hot seat, but more of what he may do to expose and provide evidence against these sadistic war mongering politicians.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Where is the evidence of large scale election fraud? In any state?



Ask your self another question. ..why Stein isnt interested in states that were even tighter...and which were won by Clinton?

 

[Ruairi77]

And thats your justification...jeez..if if and if

what??? JLW asked would this happen IF Clinton won. How do you want me to respond?

 

[Ruairi77]

Where is the evidence of large scale election fraud? In any state?



Ask your self another question. ..why Stein isnt interested in states that were even tighter...and which were won by Clinton?

Because Clinton lost.

 

[Ruairi77]

I think Clinton and Co are not that concerned about what he may do regarding world affairs when/if he takes the hot seat, but more of what he may do to expose and provide evidence against these sadistic war mongering politicians.

That may be, but it's not the point you were making.

 

[JLW]

That may be, but it's not the point you were making.

It is though, the point I am making is who she got beat by, not how she got beat. If she got beat by another candidate (by the same result) the result would of stood without question....

 

[TheFinnFan]

Because Clinton lost.

Clinton lost because election fraud? Russians did it ??? Right?

 

[Ruairi77]

Clinton lost because election fraud? Russians did it ??? Right?

no, I don't think so. I was just explaining how there could be grounds for a recount.

 

[Ruairi77]

It is though, the point I am making is who she got beat by, not how she got beat. If she got beat by another candidate (by the same result) the result would of stood without question....

Yea, that's most likely true. But Stein has called for this recount, not Clinton. It's not unreasonable to think she would have done the same if Ted Cruz had won. It's publicity for her party.

 

[tsubaki]

Another annoying trope is to suggest that Putin is merely a good statesman looking out for his citizens safety.
The truth is somewhere in the middle and at that point you've got to use your judgement. And I think Putin is one of the most dangerous dictators going. To Putin, the best form of defense is attack and if I lived on his western front, I'd be concerned.

Where did I suggest that he was "merely a good statesman looking out for his citizens safety"? Any Russian leader that had seen a hostile alliance / hostile nations on his Western border move a thousand miles closer to Moscow would at the very least have done what he did; in fact for almost all of recent European history no-one would have even thought about doing what we did in Ukraine because everyone would have known what the likely reaction from Moscow would be.

It was only the weakness of the Russian state and the idiocy of this generation of Western politicians that allowed it to happen.

 

[Ruairi77]

Where did I suggest that he was "merely a good statesman looking out for his citizens safety"? Any Russian leader that had seen a hostile alliance / hostile nations on his Western border move a thousand miles closer to Moscow would at the very least have done what he did; in fact for almost all of recent European history no-one would have even thought about doing what we did in Ukraine because everyone would have known what the likely reaction from Moscow would be.

It was only the weakness of the Russian state and the idiocy of this generation of Western politicians that allowed it to happen.

So, regardless of who's wrong or right, do you think Putin poses a threat to the Eastern borders of the EU?

 

[tsubaki]

So, regardless of who's wrong or right, do you think Putin poses a threat to the Eastern borders of the EU?

Of course he does, especially whilst the eastern border of the EU poses a threat to Russia.