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[BirkenheadBlue]

Never understood American liberals' strange (but telling) obsession with out-conservativing the conservatives on made-up issues of patriotism. Do they think anybody actually cares? Is there a full set of cosmic ribbons and Scout Badges for Best Supporting of the Troops waiting for them in the afterlife? Will John McCain be waiting at the Pearly Gates to manfully shake their hands?

It's all a bit embarassing, really...

Yeahhhh, that’s... not what’s happening

 

[LinekersLegs]

Secret Service basically never overrule the President unless in the middle of an immediate acute threat

Poor flying weather in November is not a particularly freak occurance and a starement of “I don’t care if Parisians moan about my motorcade delays, those troops saved their ancestors asses so I’m damn well going to pay my respects” would have been very on brand.

It also doesn’t explain why he didn’t turn up to Arlington yesterday, it is 10 mins from White House.

 

[peteblue]

This is hilarious...''they were starting to learn German in Paris before we came along'' LOL

Hahaha......he’s a card isn’t he......

 

[Socrates]

Humanity is doomed.

When satire becomes reality.

 

[Dan Tanner]

Humanity is doomed.

When satire becomes reality.

That's real..... I've just had to Google to check, but it appears real. I still think it's gotta be jarg, yet it's saying real, I'm flummoxed

 

[bol-uk]

Never understood American liberals' strange (but telling) obsession with out-conservativing the conservatives on made-up issues of patriotism. Do they think anybody actually cares? Is there a full set of cosmic ribbons and Scout Badges for Best Supporting of the Troops waiting for them in the afterlife? Will John McCain be waiting at the Pearly Gates to manfully shake their hands?

It's all a bit embarassing, really...

Is there anything more cringeworthy than the American love in for their returning soldiers? America has invaded about 25 countries in the last 40 years, they are not heroes believe, they are thugs.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Hahaha, that is GOLD

 

[MrPerfectNot]

Is there anything more cringeworthy than the American love in for their returning soldiers? America has invaded about 25 countries in the last 40 years, they are not heroes believe, they are thugs.

Take issue with foreign policy decisions of the US, totally fair game and I'm happy to join in. Characterizing the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who carried out those decisions as "thugs" is overly-broad and uninformed.

 

[bol-uk]

Take issue with foreign policy decisions of the US, totally fair game and I'm happy to join in. Characterizing the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who carried out those decisions as "thugs" is overly-broad and uninformed.

Fair enough but they certainly are not heroes. Doing the dirty work for the american war machine.

 

[Ruairi77]

Fair enough but they certainly are not heroes. Doing the dirty work for the american war machine.

For a lot of kids, joining the military in this country is the only option to progress themselves.
In many ways, it's like Americas social welfare system.
It's easy disregard the military but there are a lot of well intentioned people doing good work in the military.
The problems lie with the politicians and the money that molds their decisions.

 

[bol-uk]

For a lot of kids, joining the military in this country is the only option to progress themselves.
In many ways, it's like Americas social welfare system.
It's easy disregard the military but there are a lot of well intentioned people doing good work in the military.
The problems lie with the politicians and the money that molds their decisions.

That does not excuse their part in the tens/hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian deaths as a direct result of the US war on terror. I am not too sure what their "good intentions" are but any reasonable person would think twice about taking part.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

That does not excuse their part in the tens/hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian deaths as a direct result of the US war on terror. I am not too sure what their "good intentions" are but any reasonable person would think twice about taking part.

That question is answered, in part, in the post @Ruairi77 wrote that you responded to. You're talking about 18 year olds that are trying to get themselves of wherever they are. They aren't asking themselves high-level conceptual questions about the worldview of America's politicians

 

[SteveSC]

That does not excuse their part in the tens/hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian deaths as a direct result of the US war on terror. I am not too sure what their "good intentions" are but any reasonable person would think twice about taking part.

Having lived in the US for quite a while it has always been a head scratcher to me why every one of them is a "hero" by default and that i am supposed to thank them for their service when i meet them for the first time.

I think my view on the hero thing is probably different to yours i suspect but i do agree going off to war does not make you a hero. Especially if you volunteered.

BUT there are many of those young men and women who perform courageous effort while at war which makes them heroes. Time after time we read and see stories of bravery and effort by these soldiers.

I do agree with @Ruairi77 also, that you cannot blame those who sign up. If you visit many of the towns the army, marines, navy and air force recruit heavily in there are no jobs and nothing for these young people to do when they come out of school. They are dangled a sweet life by the military and promised further education etc...

Don't get me wrong i do respect anyone who wants to sign up and go to war and as i tell my friends who are either still in service or retired that i do respect them and genuinely think what they do is tough. But at the same time this continuous respect and thanking thing can be a bit much. Instead of calling them heroes and thanking them this country needs to help them when they come back instead. Many of them suffer from PTSD and need counselling and support. I live in a city littered with homeless vets and many of my friends know at least one veteran with mental issues.

 

[bol-uk]

Having lived in the US for quite a while it has always been a head scratcher to me why every one of them is a "hero" by default and that i am supposed to thank them for their service when i meet them for the first time.

I think my view on the hero thing is probably different to yours i suspect but i do agree going off to war does not make you a hero. Especially if you volunteered.

BUT there are many of those young men and women who perform courageous effort while at war which makes them heroes. Time after time we read and see stories of bravery and effort by these soldiers.

I do agree with @Ruairi77 also, that you cannot blame those who sign up. If you visit many of the towns the army, marines, navy and air force recruit heavily in there are no jobs and nothing for these young people to do when they come out of school. They are dangled a sweet life by the military and promised further education etc...

Don't get me wrong i do respect anyone who wants to sign up and go to war and as i tell my friends who are either still in service or retired that i do respect them and genuinely think what they do is tough. But at the same time this continuous respect and thanking thing can be a bit much. Instead of calling them heroes and thanking them this country needs to help them when they come back instead. Many of them suffer from PTSD and need counselling and support. I live in a city littered with homeless vets and many of my friends know at least one veteran with mental issues.

A tiny percentage actually do anything courageous, the rest, are backed by the best weaponary in the world and spend their time in base eating KFC and going on the occasional excursion. Of the 100'000s in their military how many actually deserve praise?
The main issue is the fact america puts far too much value in violence and in it's military, shoot first talk later. TO the rest of the world it is not heroic, honourable or even justified.

If life were star wars, they really are the dark side.