Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[TheFinnFan]

Its well documented both candidates recieved equal representation in the media.

The constant crying foul from the Trump camp was akin to a 90's United side surrounding the ref with every call.

Equal presentation....Yes maybe! ( because trump played them in their own game with way smaller budget)

But even to suggest that presentation was in anyway equal of fair...is another thing. Thats the bottom line. MSmedia: democratic puplic relations front...and continues to be with all these black lists n all

 

[orly]

Haha. It needs to happen. He is a terrible candidate. You know, I used to think the Cruz was the real threat, but everytime Trump opens his mouth......

He is already rescinding on all his pre-election promises, seems like he is only interested in the gig part-time (and I use gig intentionally, as that is how he is treating it). And he should be immune to the media, who already don't like him, criticizing him????????

Que?? No Comprende!

One of the best things he could do, if he wanted to avoid the media having a go, is SHUT THE HELL UP! But in actual fact, he loves the attention he is getting. He basks in it.

But strangely enough, this could actually be where his team have been very, very clever.

Most, if not all, of these pre-election promises that he is now backtracking on are the divisive, ugly ones - the Wall, using waterboarding, throwing Clinton in jail etc. What he has realised is that if you backtrack on the 'good' promises, everyone hates you; but if you backtrack on the filth, only the far right nutters will hold you to task for it. And the normal everyday folk, who suddenly realise that by voting Trump they've unintentionally aligned themselves with these biffs, will be relieved that their man won't be doing his extreme stuff, and the centre / Democrat vote that in some cases would have looked at the ballot paper and waivered just before going with Clinton will soften further towards Trump.

Doing an on-record interview with the NYT was a masterstroke too. Here's a paper that vilified him, and now on record he's got their Chief Executive and Editor behaving warmly towards him (instant common ground on Churchill etc).

 

[kithnou]

LOL at you laughing at the media and quoting that idiot..

Correct

 

[McBain]

Equal presentation....Yes maybe! ( because trump played them in their own game with way smaller budget)

But even to suggest that presentation was in anyway equal of fair...is another thing. Thats the bottom line. MSmedia: democratic puplic relations front...and continues to be with all these black lists n all

Trump really didn't play anything. He didn't have to spend money he just had a hand on the FBI Director.

Hope you got your flip flops for some major flip flopping.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...charges-donald-trump/index.html?client=safari

 

[Moomin]

Haha. It needs to happen. He is a terrible candidate. You know, I used to think the Cruz was the real threat, but everytime Trump opens his mouth......

He is already rescinding on all his pre-election promises, seems like he is only interested in the gig part-time (and I use gig intentionally, as that is how he is treating it). And he should be immune to the media, who already don't like him, criticizing him????????

Que?? No Comprende!

One of the best things he could do, if he wanted to avoid the media having a go, is SHUT THE HELL UP! But in actual fact, he loves the attention he is getting. He basks in it.

Come on now, at least he's the first President to attack a Broadway show cast and SNL.

Shouldn't he just rise above this sort of thing and ignore it?? Or he's milking the attention from it.

 

[Prevenger17]

Most, if not all, of these pre-election promises that he is now backtracking on are the divisive, ugly ones - the Wall, using waterboarding, throwing Clinton in jail etc. What he has realised is that if you backtrack on the 'good' promises, everyone hates you; but if you backtrack on the filth, only the far right nutters will hold you to task for it.

Yeah, I think it was readily apparent early on he had no intention of putting Hillary Clinton behind bars. It was the journalistic error that characterised his entire campaign where, as I saw one of the balanced journos put it, the media were taking him literally but not seriously while his supporters were taking him seriously but not literally. No doubt a few smegs genuinely thought Hillary would really be thrown in jail, but I felt it was blatantly obvious Trump was effectively on a wind-up.

Perversely, a lot of the lads I know who are still reeling from his election, seem disappointed that he has moderated himself so much, as if he might not be the cartoon monster they all wanted him to be.

 

[Moomin]

Yeah, I think it was readily apparent early on he had no intention of putting Hillary Clinton behind bars. It was the journalistic error that characterised his entire campaign where, as I saw one of the balanced journos put it, the media were taking him literally but not seriously while his supporters were taking him seriously but not literally. No doubt a few smegs genuinely thought Hillary would really be thrown in jail, but I felt it was blatantly obvious Trump was effectively on a wind-up.

Perversely, a lot of the lads I know who are still reeling from his election, seem disappointed that he has moderated himself so much, as if he might not be the cartoon monster they all wanted him to be.

He played to the crowd, he told them what they wanted to hear.

In reality, he's a lot more to the left than the likes of Cruz.

 

[orly]

Yeah, I think it was readily apparent early on he had no intention of putting Hillary Clinton behind bars. It was the journalistic error that characterised his entire campaign where, as I saw one of the balanced journos put it, the media were taking him literally but not seriously while his supporters were taking him seriously but not literally. No doubt a few smegs genuinely thought Hillary would really be thrown in jail, but I felt it was blatantly obvious Trump was effectively on a wind-up.

Perversely, a lot of the lads I know who are still reeling from his election, seem disappointed that he has moderated himself so much, as if he might not be the cartoon monster they all wanted him to be.

That bit in bold I think was the best summary of the election and absolutely spot on.

I find that people like Ban Ki Moon and the Chinese diplomat commenting that "he only said that to get elected" astonishing; we are now in an era where you can legitimately ignore political promises and ultimately vote by subjective preference only. Journos saying to him "but what's your policy on health / immigration" etc might as well have asked "what's your favourite colour" to either candidate.

The US President has essentially been a decision-making role with the ultimate responsibility . What Trump is being seen to do is turn it into a Presidency in the sense of at a Professional Body or Company, where the executive arm do all the actual work and you are simply the figurehead. And if he's doing that, I think he taps into something very clever- American ideals of successful, leviathan business with clear lines of success through ingenuity and hardwork. He resurrects the idea of America, Inc.

 

[Prevenger17]

In reality, he's a lot more to the left than the likes of Cruz.

He is. Ted Cruz would have been an utter disaster imo, there's no joy behind his shark eyes. The problem is, now that the Republicans have both houses, it looks likely that Trump might just drift into Republican orthodoxy which is a shame. I mainly wanted him to win the election so both parties might actually be forced to confront the product of their own behaviour and corruption. I didn't expect him to be a good president, but I had a small hope that an untethered buffoon might actually do some good by accident. If he only wants the gig part time and is going to leave it up to his advisors, it's just going to be another Republican presidency.

 

[Moomin]

That bit in bold I think was the best summary of the election and absolutely spot on.

I find that people like Ban Ki Moon and the Chinese diplomat commenting that "he only said that to get elected" astonishing; we are now in an era where you can legitimately ignore political promises and ultimately vote by subjective preference only. Journos saying to him "but what's your policy on health / immigration" etc might as well have asked "what's your favourite colour" to either candidate.

The US President has essentially been a decision-making role with the ultimate responsibility . What Trump is being seen to do is turn it into a Presidency in the sense of at a Professional Body or Company, where the executive arm do all the actual work and you are simply the figurehead. And if he's doing that, I think he taps into something very clever- American ideals of successful, leviathan business with clear lines of success through ingenuity and hardwork. He resurrects the idea of America, Inc.

It's Politics for the reality TV generation.

I'LL SHOUT LOUDER THAN YOU.

We have gone from wanting to watch the crazy people on these type of shows for entertainment to them running countries.

 

[Prevenger17]

It's Politics for the reality TV generation.

I don't think it's as simple as that. Obviously, with a potential President, they generally have to have personal appeal as well as policy. I don't see anything wrong with that. Most people don't have the complex understanding of world and political affairs (myself included) required to make anything close to an informed judgement call on anything but the most basic of policies. In the end, no matter how competent a candidate might be, if s/he can't capture the wider imagination of the electorate, than that's a big problem. Obama is a great politician and a very intelligent man, but he was also a showman, which was the deciding factor in him winning two terms.

 

[Prevenger17]

I don't think it's as simple as that. Obviously, with a potential President, they generally have to have personal appeal as well as policy. I don't see anything wrong with that. Most people don't have the complex understanding of world and political affairs (myself included) required to make anything close to an informed judgement call on anything but the most basic of policies. In the end, no matter how competent a candidate might be, if s/he can't capture the wider imagination of the electorate, than that's a big problem. Obama is a great politician and a very intelligent man, but he was also a showman, which was the deciding factor in him winning two terms.

Conversely, Hillary was insipid and uninspiring, with no clear message.

 

[kithnou]

Conversely, Hillary was insipid and uninspiring, with no clear message.

Staggering how none of them even care to mention her as the reason Trump won in a hiding.
They blame it all on any reason possible apart from the reality. He won because she isn't worthy. Full stop.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Conversely, Hillary was insipid and uninspiring, with no clear message.

And that really isnt winners problem.

 

[orly]

Conversely, Hillary was insipid and uninspiring, with no clear message.

And that really isnt winners problem.

To be honest FinnFrandel, having no clear message isn't his problem , it's his strength. He's not really committed to anything.