Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Looking at 2020, which is eons away... at the moment what has the POTUS done to increase his support? Remember, he won the Electoral College (not the election, mind) with a lesser percentage of the vote than was won by Mitt Romney and Romney was clobbered in the EC. Current approval ratings among American voters for the POTUS are significantly below historic averages and he is not going to have the privilege of running against Mrs. Clinton again.

His spouting off on Twitter keeps the GOP base engaged. It also keeps the opposition's outrage meter at 11 which keeps them engaged. The fact is there are more Democrats than Republicans in the United States and his approval among the ever-growing Independents is below 40%. There is very much likely to be a higher traditional Dem voter turnout in 2020 and Cheeto Mussolini cannot win re-election with his base alone. Yet they are the only people he speaks to and, as far as I can tell, will ever be able to speak to as he is only able to remember a few applause lines and some teenage-level insults.

Two and a half more years of this and I have to believe the American public will be utterly exhausted and get behind virtually any competent young(ish) candidate providing an alternative to the embarrassing carnival from hell.
This is really the point. Sure, his supporters are still there, but for many who just didn't care before, surely a fair share of those people are fully woke now

Trump has done absolutely nothing to win fence-sitters over since he took office. Even moderate republicans can't stand him. A decent amount of republicans have bolted the party. This stuff usually just doesn't happen.

The only way he wins again is if somehow there is less voter turnout than 2016. I just don't see that happening.
 
Today in FB Trumpland...

#1 Trump fan: President Trump HAS to tweet! He tweets what the corrupt and dishonest media hacks refuse to report!! The unhinged, corrupt, dishonest, hateful media hacks are a disgrace!

Appearance Matters Trump fan: I hear you, but you must admit that he comes across as a petulant child quite often right?

#1 Trump fan: He fights back....I love it!
 
This is really the point. Sure, his supporters are still there, but for many who just didn't care before, surely a fair share of those people are fully woke now

Trump has done absolutely nothing to win fence-sitters over since he took office. Even moderate republicans can't stand him. A decent amount of republicans have bolted the party. This stuff usually just doesn't happen.

The only way he wins again is if somehow there is less voter turnout than 2016. I just don't see that happening.

Offset by traditional blue collar dem voters continuing to support Trump
 
Offset by traditional blue collar dem voters continuing to support Trump
They already voted for Trump though, 2016. Some of them will come back thinking they were lied to by Trump. Those were the people who voted for Trump for economic reasons.

Trump's hard core base, however, voted for Trump for cultural/social reasons.
 
Apologies, my multiquoting skills are crap!

on your first point, thanks!
You're right, there are plenty of perspectives.
I disagree on how to approach the midterms. I think going hard after Trump and his complicit crowd is the best way to win over disgruntled independents. Time to take a knife to a knife fight. On Obama, he didn't have to do much to beat McCain. Republicans had the country on it's knees. He also wasn't running against Bush.
The likes of Schumer and Pelossi (sp?) are both in danger of losing their power because of their softly softly appease the money people approach. Running on centerist politics will win nothing.

On the Russia point. I think you're making very light of their transgressions. The leaks of DNC emails combined with social media priming were a huge factor in determining the mood of the country. Yes, there was the leaking of tapes on Trump but that was legal. There's a big difference between legally influencing an election and illegally.

Most here know the POTUS has a lot of power. Trumps bowing to Putin just shows us how fragile our defence of that power is. How unsecure our democracy is, and to your last point, how Russian interference in our elections is not to be taken lightly.

Good points again, Ruairi. I still maintain my position, especially that centrism is the way forward.

We'll agree to disagree, mate!


@dholliday Jesus, just looking at that polling site you linked. Look at GWBs popularity post 9/11. That fills me with dread for what might happen. The sooner this idiot is out of office the better.

Yeah, that 9/11 spike is bonkers. But it was a bonkers time. We were all for the Americans, globally. All went to hell once the bombs started raining down on Afghan.

What a shame. We were on our way to a nice world back then.


You may try and swing statistics any way you like but there is no getting around the fact that what I said was completely accurate and more germane in comparison (Romney v Trump). Per Gallup, the average approval rating for a POTUS in the 6th quarter of his presidency is 57% (since Eisenhauer). The current POTUS is at 43% (nearly his high-water mark) with some of the highest negative ratings among the opposition party and Independents ever seen by Gallup.

haha lol

caught you playing stats redhanded, lad


Trump has done absolutely nothing to win fence-sitters over since he took office.

Domestically jobs seem to be doing alright, no? That's quite a big deal.


Offset by traditional blue collar dem voters continuing to support Trump

Jobs...blue collar...makes sense.


Trump's hard core base, however, voted for Trump for cultural/social reasons.

Disagree. According to the article I linked earlier studies have shown only about one-fifth of Trump voters did so for cultural/social reasons.
 
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