Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[verreauxi]

Trump loves kicking puppies until they bleed from the ears.

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: I haven't read enough about puppy-kicking to have an opinion, but give Trump a chance.

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: Yeah, but I got 200$ more back in taxes

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: Didn't Obama had a dog in the White house?

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: The left lets infants choose their own gender!

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: Sure, I don't like kicking puppies, but this is a witch-hunt!

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: Those emails!?

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: Who is the real victim...puppies or Sarah Sanders?

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant!
Trump-supporter: I don't condone puppy-kicking, but back in 1950 the Democrats used to kick puppies

Any well-raised human: This is morally repugnant and here is a photo of Trump doing so
Trump-supporter: You are a holier-than-thou liberal


CNN: Trump has kicked another puppy today until it bled from the ears
NYTimes: Trump has kicked another puppy today until it bled from the ears
Washington Post: Trump has kicked another puppy today until it bled from the ears
FOX News: We will have extended coverage of Mike Pence's visit to the Iowa State Fair.

 

[Ruairi77]

Yeah. I don't agree with what's happening with the illegal immigrants' children, but I don't see it as a cut-and-dry racial issue. I don't agree with the healthcare system, but there again it's been ruined for years. I certainly don't agree with the gun laws. I think all governments and their employees like to bend the truth a lot of the time. I suppose most of the time their truth-bending isn't highlighted as much, as this witch hunt is unprecedented.

But let's not claim that it's worse than under the Democrats.

What? Do you live in America?

I'm an independent and have no time for Schumer or Pelossi
That said...
Under Democrats, Obamacare was passed. While not ideal, it was better than nothing. Trump is trying to scrap it so people with preexisting conditions cant be insured.
Under Democrats, gun laws were tighter than they are under Trump who loosened restrictions on mentally unstable people getting access to guns. Clinton managed to ban semi automatic weapons.
Under Democrats, Families were not separated at the border and they never used language designed to alienate and divide.
Under Democrats, there was a black president while under republicans we have a president who excuses neo nazis killing Americans.
Under Democrats, Obama held regular press briefings where he spoke off the cuff. He could because he didnt lie. The only falsehood was 'you can keep your own doctor'. This is the kind of lie trump utters on a daily if not hourly basis, yet Obama was hammered for years for it. Trump has made lying acceptable.
There are a load of other examples of how things are worse off than they were under Democrats.

OOOOhhhh but some hollywood types didn't move to Canada like they said they would. Well done!

 

[toffy]

Haha!! I guess my god what a terrible joke or jab.

You are one boring troll. At least branch out from the Trump forum like the other multi s and trolls.

So tell me can you only login twice weekly then is that because you are using one of those trial VPN apps and it only allows you certain days? Or is it your mom only allows you to use the internet once or twice weekly.

How about Australia in the world cup? Or Everton's chances of signing some good players this summer?

Whatever it is you need to let it go.

The personal jibes are boring now.

 

[SteveSC]

Whatever it is you need to let it go.

The personal jibes are boring now.

You constantly troll and throw jabs but get upset a lot when someone calls you out or does the same to you. Haha!!

Tell us again how being a die hard Trump supporter helps you as an Australian (allegedly). I'd say Everton fan too but there is no evidence of that.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

What? Do you live in America?

I'm an independent and have no time for Schumer or Pelossi
That said...
Under Democrats, Obamacare was passed. While not ideal, it was better than nothing. Trump is trying to scrap it so people with preexisting conditions cant be insured.
Under Democrats, gun laws were tighter than they are under Trump who loosened restrictions on mentally unstable people getting access to guns. Clinton managed to ban semi automatic weapons.
Under Democrats, Families were not separated at the border and they never used language designed to alienate and divide.
Under Democrats, there was a black president while under republicans we have a president who excuses neo nazis killing Americans.
Under Democrats, Obama held regular press briefings where he spoke off the cuff. He could because he didnt lie. The only falsehood was 'you can keep your own doctor'. This is the kind of lie trump utters on a daily if not hourly basis, yet Obama was hammered for years for it. Trump has made lying acceptable.
There are a load of other examples of how things are worse off than they were under Democrats.

OOOOhhhh but some hollywood types didn't move to Canada like they said they would. Well done!

 

[Ruairi77]

Cool, you cant make an argument to you've resorted to being a spanner. well done!

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Cool, you cant make an argument to you've resorted to being a spanner. well done!

I'll take any opportunity to post the gif. Also I can't be arsed with a longer discussion, I feel sorry for Donald more than I admire him. I think he'll do good things for the States, but may have questionable methods to get the results he wants. I can see why people disagree with him. You're completely entitled to think what you like about him. My posts are merely commenting on what I perceive to be the case regarding how he is treated.

 

[Ruairi77]

I'll take any opportunity to post the gif. Also I can't be arsed with a longer discussion, I feel sorry for Donald more than I admire him. I think he'll do good things for the States, but may have questionable methods to get the results he wants. I can see why people disagree with him. You're completely entitled to think what you like about him. My posts are merely commenting on what I perceive to be the case regarding how he is treated.

right, you feel sorry for Trump and think he'll do a good job but you cant be bothered explaining how other than to imply that he might have to get a bit fascist to get what he wants.
No disrespect mate, as I do like your Everton related posts and we're all Evertonians but your views on Trump come close to exhibiting a kind of pleasure in watching him tear structures down. This is a luxury only afforded to those who don't have to live under his leadership.
I'm not sure where your from but if you're from liverpool, think about how Thatcher treated merseyside, imagine that but instead of scousers, he's targeting pretty much every minority in America, gays/blacks/latinos/immigrants/women/Muslims/anyone on the left.
So while the dow might inexplicably still be doing well, the very foundation of this country is being eroded by an inarticulate asshat.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Harryflashman]

This is where the normalisation of the demonisation of a community or people takes you but what’s really worrying is that it’s not where it ends.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[verreauxi]

But OF COURSE Trump supporters aren't racist! Obviously not.

 

[verreauxi]

But OF COURSE Trump supporters aren't racist! Obviously not.

 

[verreauxi]

. I feel sorry for Donald more than I admire him. I think he'll do good things for the States, but may have questionable methods to get the results he wants. I can see why people disagree with him. You're completely entitled to think what you like about him. My posts are merely commenting on what I perceive to be the case regarding how he is treated.

I'm quite touched that you have him in your sympathies for all the mistreatment he has endured.

Exactly what "good things" do you anticipate him doing for the USA? And are these "good things" good enough to offset all the hatred, misogyny, corruption, incompetence, and racism that he engages in and/or encourages on a daily basis? Are these latter things what you mean by "questionable methods"?

 

[verreauxi]

All you apologists for Trump's immigration policy read this, and then please go have sex with yourself at your earliest convenience.

A primer on immigration reform:
(From here: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/06/zero-tolerance-immigration-primer)



MCALLEN, TX – JUNE 12: A two-year-old Honduran asylum seeker cries as her mother is searched and detained near the U.S.-Mexico border on June 12, 2018 in McAllen, Texas. The asylum seekers had rafted across the Rio Grande from Mexico and were detained by U.S. Border Patrol agents before being sent to a processing center for possible separation. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is executing the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy towards undocumented immigrants. U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions also said that domestic and gang violence in immigrants’ country of origin would no longer qualify them for political asylum status. (Photo by John Moore/Getty Images)

I think most know, but in case people don’t, I’m an immigration lawyer. Made the switch about 2 years ago after a career in which I mostly did patent and trademark litigation. I’m currently a solo practitioner in the DC area and the majority of my clients are asylum-seekers from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. I’ve tried – and even won – asylum trials in immigration court, and have interviewed literally thousands of undocumented individuals to hear their stories and evaluate the merits of their cases.​

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Prior to zero tolerance (I’ll just use ZT to denote going forward), a mother and 2 sons leave El Salvador because of gang violence or domestic violence. They pay a “coyote” to take them and a bunch of other folks to the US border. These are mostly people with second grade educations, and they know [Poor language removed] all about US immigration law. They cross the border and are apprehended. Pretty much 100% of border crossers in 2018 are apprehended, and it’s been that way since about 2010. All the “border security” measures that have gone into effect since 2005 when GWB proposed an amnesty have increased the number of border patrol and the technology they use to patrol. Of the thousands of undocumented individuals I have interacted with, literally not a single one entered the US after 2010 and was not apprehended at or near the border. The dirty little secret of immigration policy is that the border is already secure.​

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If this mother and 2 children were apprehended prior to ZT, they were taken to a detention center along the border. There are many such centers in southern Texas, southern AZ and southern CA. The parents and children were not separated for any appreciable length of time. Never. Anybody who says different is misinformed. Or lying. Your mileage may vary. If the parent stated that she wanted asylum, she was given what is called a Credible Fear Interview, in which she detailed the reasons for leaving El Salvador. The purpose of the CFI is not to finally adjudicate whether to grant asylum – that is done by an immigration judge or by USCIS. If the CFI states that there is no credible fear of return to your home country, you are deported. If after the interview, it is determined that you have a credible fear of returning to your country, then you are given a Notice to Appear that is the document that begins the immigration court process. It states that you are not a US Citizen or legal permanent resident, you are not here under a visa, you are a citizen of El Salvador, and you are removeable under the Immigration and Naturalization Act (INA). Asylum is a defense to removal in immigration court. An asylum-seeker files form I-589, along with as much evidence as she can obtain to support the asylum claim. The immigration judge determines whether to grant asylum or deny. Denial means removal, aka deportation. You can appeal a negative decision to the Board of Immigration Appeals, and after that to the federal appeals circuit that covers your area – 6th circuit for those in Michigan and Ohio, 4th circuit for Virginia and Maryland, 7th circuit for Illinois and Wisconsin, for example.​

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While in detention, the families would be kept together. ICE would determine whether to release on own recognizance or under a bond. Typically, they do not do so, and so the immigrant can ask the immigration judge to release them under bond. Bond rules in immigration court are the same as in regular court – if you are deemed a danger to the community or a flight risk, bond can be denied and you are detained throughout the pendency of your case. Rarely were parents with children denied bond altogether. They were usually released within anywhere from 2 days to 2 months. Again, when there are children, they would try and expedite their release so they’re not sitting in a detention center for months at a time.​

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Now, under ZT, the administration is criminally charging the parents and using that as the facade to separate the children from the parents. Obviously, if someone is arrested for suspicion of a crime, and he/she has children, that person is separated from the children. So that is how they are accomplishing the separations – by criminally indicting the parents. A first unlawful entry into the US is a misdemeanor, lesser penalty than possession of a small amount of marijuana for personal use. So no prior administration took the step of criminally prosecuting these people, and especially not for the express purpose of separating the families as a deterrent to future immigrants as the administration admits it is doing.​

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There is obviously a TON more information than this, but I think this at least lays out the current situation with family separation, why it’s happening, and how prior administrations dealt with it.​

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