It's exactly what you did.
That evangelical scumbag is gonna smoke a massive turd in hell when he dies. Utter joke the evangelical right.
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It's exactly what you did.
That evangelical scumbag is gonna smoke a massive turd in hell when he dies. Utter joke the evangelical right.
Lots of hypocrisy on the evangelical right, no doubt. Of course, it's easier to avoid hypocrisy when you don't have any standards to begin with.
wait? you're complementing the evangelical right on their high standards which enabled such hypocrisy?
Not really. I'm noting that there are a lot of people who don't espouse moral or ethical beliefs who nonetheless lie in wait in order to attack those who do, and who fall short. I think society is generally better off for having someone say what Franklin Graham says on many things. The people I'm referring to don't want an environment where Franklin Graham lives up to his rhetoric, they want a world where his message is silenced altogether.
So better to have hypocrites than people who disagree with religious fundamentalists?
Better to have people who promote virtuous behavior and sometimes fail to live up to those standards than to rid the world of people promoting virtuous behavior.
Nobody ever suggested ridding the world of virtuous people, hypocritical religious fundamentalists on the other hand.....
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You're conflating what I'm saying. I don't think religious fundamentalists are necessarily virtuous, though some certainly are. I think many of them have a virtuous message or goal, and rather than merely call out hypocrisy, many of their detractors are focused on eliminating the message or speaker entirely because they don't like the identity of the message/speaker.
I don't agree with Franklin Graham's positions on Trump. But there are plenty of people who'd love to watch him burn because he has the audacity to be an outspoken Christian and/or support Trump, and they'd happily ignore his four decades of running an acclaimed humanitarian organization in cheering his demise.
look, someone called out evangelical hypocrisy. You seemed to be making the point that evangelicals need to be virtuous in order to to be hypocritical and it's worth it because, hey, they're virtuous. I think that this gives them too much credit.
I think as a group, the evangelicals have shown themselves as a fundamental group who've lost sight of what their message was in order to retain power. They come across as brainwashed.
88% approval for a man who is literally the first person Jesus would boot from the temple, come on man.
Evangelicals are a significant force for humanitarian efforts all over the world, far more so than a lot of their detractors. They're also extremely varied in their beliefs and even in some political viewpoints, and grouping them all into a single category is probably not that useful.
As for Trump, I'm more concerned about the double standards of Evangelical Christians than I am their relative support for Trump. I think Trump is using the evangelical contingent, but he's carrying some of their agenda items forward, so I don't think it's particularly odd they'd support him. Especially considering the opposition.
Personally I think evangelicals like Graham should be silenced in the realm of politics and swaying voters. Govt policy shouldn't have religious bias.
He has shared shocking views on Islam. It's very dangerous when religious leaders speak out about other religions. On top of that he still tries to say Obama is Muslim...or rather that he has the Muslim seed in him because his father was Muslim. ICYMI Obama's father converted to Christianity at age six. I would think a pettifogger such as youself would cringe at such a false statement.
Someone like him who has a cultish following has no business weighing in on politics. This latest bit about Trump is just further evidence of that.
Yet, people like you seek to use religious arguments to delegitimize Trump (OMG Stormy!). It's intellectually laughable.
Thankfully, Franklin Graham and others, including far more abhorrent people, are still allowed to influence politics and anything else they like in America. Long may that last (it probably won't, and we'll be worse off for it).
Am I using a religious argument to delegitimize Trump? Or am I calling a evangelical who weighs in on politics a hypocrite?
We won't be worse off IMO.
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