Current Affairs Dominic Cummings

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The truth will out in the end, or more like the lies to protect Johnson and Cummings will be exposed. Ah well, all's well at the Mail with it's usual twisting and turning.


Three, Cole and his pals are flat-out lying with his claim of lockdown breach. Here’s what the article says: “A retired teacher who reported Dominic Cummings to the police for allegedly breaking lockdown rules has admitted driving 250 miles to collect his daughter … Robin Lees drove from his home in Barnard Castle, County Durham, to pick up his student daughter, Elizabeth, who had been self-isolating at her boyfriend’s home in Ascot, Berkshire, after returning from an extended study trip to Canada”. There is more.

The Mail on Sunday can reveal that just days before speaking to the police, Mr Lees broke lockdown regulations himself by making a 526-mile round-trip to collect his daughter”. Straight accusation of breaching lockdown. But, as Pippa Crerar of the Mirror has pointed out, this isn’t true, and she quotes Government guidance.

... and he had a homework fail (again)

If a student is opting to change their primary residence for the purpose of the emergency period to live back at their family home, this is permitted”. The MoS was lying. Worse, the paper has clearly undertaken an aggressive and bullying act of doorstepping on Robin Lees, for which he should be contacting lawyers"

The only useful thing about Harry Cole is that reading his name on a byline almost always guarantees that Dan Hodges won’t have written the most nonsense that weekend.

Though it’s often a close run thing between those two mates of Johnson.
 
That’s certainly what he claimed he is, but my point is that there’s really no evidence beyond his blog posts that he is that.

You mention his time with Gove, but look at what that did - monetise (via Free Schools and building on Labours shameful Academies) education, ramp up fees and debt. This emphatically didn’t led to a meritocracy - in fact the talented poor were probably the people who lost out most from this policy, who end up being the people most likely to have to pay the debt off.

My point about his background is relevant because it demonstrates how unlikely it is that he is genuinely going to do what he claims - is it really plausible to think that he’s going to dismantle the system that put him there and which provides his work now? I don’t blame him for coming from there (or for marrying who he did), but to me the idea that he’d wreck that is laughable.

Can't trust his blog, he has already been caught out editing his blogs so to look as though he predicted this pandemic... Its becoming more evident it's who he knows rather than what he knows...
 
That’s certainly what he claimed he is, but my point is that there’s really no evidence beyond his blog posts that he is that.

You mention his time with Gove, but look at what that did - monetise (via Free Schools and building on Labours shameful Academies) education, ramp up fees and debt. This emphatically didn’t led to a meritocracy - in fact the talented poor were probably the people who lost out most from this policy, who end up being the people most likely to have to pay the debt off.

My point about his background is relevant because it demonstrates how unlikely it is that he is genuinely going to do what he claims - is it really plausible to think that he’s going to dismantle the system that put him there and which provides his work now? I don’t blame him for coming from there (or for marrying who he did), but to me the idea that he’d wreck that is laughable.
The people that have worked with him tend to claim that it's true, and I question why he'd make such posts as an advisor? What would be the point in the ruse?

Let's be honest, they are roughly consistent in everything he's done: business for Sterling as a Euro sceptic? Changes in the education sector?

Yes, Tory members may be sympathetic to some of the organisations he'd been a member of, but that's arguably more correlation rather than actual causation.

Nor is he a minister attempting to claim favour of the voters and in reality he's shown that he doesn't truly care what many of the population think about him.

He doesn't really care what the party think about him either, so again why would he post such things? What is he attempting to actually cover up and to how?

Don't forget, he's been quite rude about the party too on numerous occasions both publicly and privately. The jigsaw doesn't portray a raging Tory.

At the time of DfE, he wasn't involved in the fee part, which came partly from the treasury; yes he was part of the academy and free-schools.

With regards to fees, actually the % of people from working class backgrounds has increased over the past twenty-years since Labour introduced tuition fees.

Yes, there's legitimate arguments that fees can be scary for families from working class backgrounds, but they ultimately probably don't pay it off anyway (9% tax).

That's not saying a grant system could not work and neither am I defending the system (I'm against it as it is now), but saying that tuitions fees would put off...

and totally disadvantage working class is simply not true and putting that on Cumming's shoulders, when that wasn't part of his remit, is a shallow argument.

With regards to others part of the DfE, there's strong suggestions that the long-term rising of standards (in terms of the curriculum) came as his suggestions.

Sadly, academies (which do come with many issues) were used as a conduit to push these changes, which again I'm not saying are ideal. OFSTED reforms too.

With regards to the last point, people could quite bluntly counter with examples such as Corbyn who themselves cam from such institutions yet hold different views.

Where is the plausibility there? It's not a solid argument I admit, but I have issues that the education chosen by parents should categories a person later on.

Should I say it's laughable that a man coming from public schooling, as Corbyn did, would hold views against the establishment? Is that laughable?

We'll probably have to agree to disagree and I'm not saying I like or agree with the man, however I do sincerely believe that he's not what many people see him as.
 
The people that have worked with him tend to claim that it's true, and I question why he'd make such posts as an advisor? What would be the point in the ruse?

Let's be honest, they are roughly consistent in everything he's done: business for Sterling as a Euro sceptic? Changes in the education sector?

Yes, Tory members may be sympathetic to some of the organisations he'd been a member of, but that's arguably more correlation rather than actual causation.

Nor is he a minister attempting to claim favour of the voters and in reality he's shown that he doesn't truly care what many of the population think about him.

He doesn't really care what the party think about him either, so again why would he post such things? What is he attempting to actually cover up and to how?

Don't forget, he's been quite rude about the party too on numerous occasions both publicly and privately. The jigsaw doesn't portray a raging Tory.

At the time of DfE, he wasn't involved in the fee part, which came partly from the treasury; yes he was part of the academy and free-schools.

With regards to fees, actually the % of people from working class backgrounds has increased over the past twenty-years since Labour introduced tuition fees.

Yes, there's legitimate arguments that fees can be scary for families from working class backgrounds, but they ultimately probably don't pay it off anyway (9% tax).

That's not saying a grant system could not work and neither am I defending the system (I'm against it as it is now), but saying that tuitions fees would put off...

and totally disadvantage working class is simply not true and putting that on Cumming's shoulders, when that wasn't part of his remit, is a shallow argument.

With regards to others part of the DfE, there's strong suggestions that the long-term rising of standards (in terms of the curriculum) came as his suggestions.

Sadly, academies (which do come with many issues) were used as a conduit to push these changes, which again I'm not saying are ideal. OFSTED reforms too.

With regards to the last point, people could quite bluntly counter with examples such as Corbyn who themselves cam from such institutions yet hold different views.

Where is the plausibility there? It's not a solid argument I admit, but I have issues that the education chosen by parents should categories a person later on.

Should I say it's laughable that a man coming from public schooling, as Corbyn did, would hold views against the establishment? Is that laughable?

We'll probably have to agree to disagree and I'm not saying I like or agree with the man, however I do sincerely believe that he's not what many people see him as.

The Tories have always had to reinvent themselves though, that is the context in which those posts should be read - that they are not the same Tories as the ones people are blaming, look here they are arguing for something that sounds popular as well (whilst somehow moving in the same way and trying to implement the same things that they always do).

Hilton was rude about the party as well - as were many of the Cameroons; they still used them as a vehicle to gain power. That Cummings holds the membership and MPs in contempt is not unusual.

As for fees - he was part of the DfE and it was implemented by that department, plus of course he hasn't done anything to change it whilst in power. Yes, more working class kids go to university now but that is because they have to - loads of entry-level positions (nursing, social work, teaching, emergency services) actually require you to have a degree now, when 10-15 years ago this was not the case. Loading them all with debt and then making them compete against the people of Cummings' class - who usually do not have debts and have the connections - is not in any way meritocratic, and my point about smart working class kids was that they are the ones who are most likely to have to pay the debt (because they get jobs that qualify).

Finally as for Corbyn, yes he went to public school but that is my point - he actually came out and said that system should stop.
 
The Tories have always had to reinvent themselves though, that is the context in which those posts should be read - that they are not the same Tories as the ones people are blaming, look here they are arguing for something that sounds popular as well (whilst somehow moving in the same way and trying to implement the same things that they always do).

Hilton was rude about the party as well - as were many of the Cameroons; they still used them as a vehicle to gain power. That Cummings holds the membership and MPs in contempt is not unusual.

As for fees - he was part of the DfE and it was implemented by that department, plus of course he hasn't done anything to change it whilst in power. Yes, more working class kids go to university now but that is because they have to - loads of entry-level positions (nursing, social work, teaching, emergency services) actually require you to have a degree now, when 10-15 years ago this was not the case. Loading them all with debt and then making them compete against the people of Cummings' class - who usually do not have debts and have the connections - is not in any way meritocratic, and my point about smart working class kids was that they are the ones who are most likely to have to pay the debt (because they get jobs that qualify).

Finally as for Corbyn, yes he went to public school but that is my point - he actually came out and said that system should stop.
I think you're confusing meritocracy with class and political issues. Remove the fees aspects, we have more people attending university from the working class.

Also, this improves the % of people from BME backgrounds, including those to the top universities, which means more people can achieve based on their merit.

Only last year, I remember reading an article in the Guardian where now nearly 20% of young adults from really deprived areas were attending university.

Historically, many universities - namely those in the Russell Group - were closed shops; let's be clear, it isn't perfect but the system is far more open these days.

Admittedly, there is an increase in professions needing a degree, but counter that with the % in the figures above. I can't see how that isn't meritocracy.

Add fees into the agenda, the system has allowed the widening of the university numbers in the United Kingdom alongside with a % of those from the above.

Additionally, the number of people entering university full time, rather than part-time supported by working, has grew by over 100,000 in the past thirteen years.

I'm not going to pretend that the system is perfect and without faults, however I see it as more people are getting more opportunities from all backgrounds.

I also have a real issue with how tuitions fees, initially brought in by Labour, are actually explained, and Martin Lewis talks quite publicly about this issue.

Anyone who earns over £21,000 a year pay for them and repayments are at 9% of earnings over that: the more successful you are financially, the more you pay.

Yes, people from privilege will either be able to not have to pay or will have family etc. to help pay, but that's again not talking purely about meritocracy.

If however you don't earn enough to pay it off, well you don't. It's a tax in many senses, not a debt, and anyone can obtain it regardless of their background.

Like I said, I'm not happy with the system as it is and ideally we wouldn't have tuition fees at all, but it really isn't the demon system that people portray it as.

Young lads or ladies from the inner cities are provided with a better, more rigorous state education in conjunction with the ability to attend the universities.

They are also being able to concentrate on their studies (full time education) rather than in the previous decades where more were reliant on part-time degrees.*

Ideally, I suspect Cummings will believe that this will filter through to the grand mechanics of government although lets be honest it's not going to be overnight.

With regards to being a part of the DfE, again is that not a narrow point? His primary role was to work on the curriculum and free schools and academies.

Does everyone in a specific organisation, especially if employed with a narrow remit, hold responsibility? Did every Labour MP decide on the Iraq war?

Did every current Conservative push through Brexit? Guilty by association isn't ideal really. What are his actual views on tuition fees? Well, I don't know.

To your original point, well I agree to an extent and I actually wrote my dissertation on something similar, where I discussed post-1945 Conservatism as ad hoc.

Loosely following the strain of conservatism (little C) and changing to suit the current demands, but never really straying away from the rope too much.

I eventually came to the point that the different elements of the Conservative Party dogma (one-nation etc.) were similar in the sense that they aren't rigid.

But I'm digressing... You keep talking about the Tories, when my point is that I sincerely and genuinely believe that he isn't a Tory in a literal or subjective sense.

I don't think he ever has or will be either; rather, he will use and work with, in a loose alliance, to support his view. If necessary, he'll happily throw them away.

Along the way, there'll be questionable decisions that he makes that the Conservative (big C) members will applaud, yet again that's part of the greater picture.

*Less people doing additional degrees as older applicants may play a part too.
 
Maybe this will get him the sack.

Government fails to distance PM's aide from sex discrimination case


Government lawyers have tried and failed to remove the name of Dominic Cummings from a sex discrimination claim being pursued by Sajid Javid’s former special adviser, the Guardian can disclose.

The demand was rejected after barristers for Sonia Khan, the former chancellor’s media adviser who was marched by armed police from Downing Street, successfully argued that the behaviour of Boris Johnson’s chief aide was pivotal to the case.

The disclosure will be seen as an attempt by the government to protect Cummings from further controversy. He is facing demands for his resignation after the Guardian revealed that he had driven hundreds of miles across the UK during the coronavirus outbreak.

It also means that Cummings could be made personally liable for part of any damages award.
 
Maybe this will get him the sack.

Government fails to distance PM's aide from sex discrimination case


Government lawyers have tried and failed to remove the name of Dominic Cummings from a sex discrimination claim being pursued by Sajid Javid’s former special adviser, the Guardian can disclose.

The demand was rejected after barristers for Sonia Khan, the former chancellor’s media adviser who was marched by armed police from Downing Street, successfully argued that the behaviour of Boris Johnson’s chief aide was pivotal to the case.

The disclosure will be seen as an attempt by the government to protect Cummings from further controversy. He is facing demands for his resignation after the Guardian revealed that he had driven hundreds of miles across the UK during the coronavirus outbreak.

It also means that Cummings could be made personally liable for part of any damages award.

Nothing will get him the sack.
 
In 64 we had race riots, it was worse than now. I remember my grandparents telling me about them. They moved forward somehow after those, but I really don't know where it goes from here. Everyone is just talking about shooting each other. Some seem like this is what they've been waiting for. And Trump just doesn't help at all, nor does my mayor
 
I read that hes sneakily giving all kinds of contracts to his friends companies without due tender process. This was the whole point of him pushing for Brexit. It also seems clear that in 6 months once hes forced a chaotic no deal Brexit through he will quit. An appalling situation.
 

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