Dominic Calvert-Lewin watch

[GrandOldTeam]

I’m not even convinced he wanted to stay anymore tbh.
I wanted to keep him but as we got to the window prior to his leaving it was pretty apparent a deal wasn’t going to be done so wanted him sold then.
Other than offering him an outrageous contract, I think he’d simply had enough in the end, and I can’t say I blame him.
Eye watering contracts given to chancers who contributed far less than him.
A significant proportion of the fan base that had well and truly turned on him.
Getting booed for coming off with a broken eye socket.
Fresh start in his personal life with new Mrs and kid, not surprised he fancied a fresh start in his professional life too.

Think it's a cope mentality that mate.

In May he'd just changed rep and was proactively talking up wanting to stay "who wouldn't want to be part of whats coming up at Everton" etc. This was planted, proactive PR - you don't do that unless there's intent to stay.

Ultimately, he went for the money - money he was always going to get as a free agent, that Everton wouldn't offer.

If Sheff Utd got promoted before an almighty bottle job, he'd have got more money from them than Everton had on the table.

It was the same with Doucoure, who'd still be an Everton player now if he accepted less money. Both wanted to be paid what they felt they deserved. It was on Everton, who decided to let them go.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Fair bit of coverage re: England call up on BBC today;

Leeds news: Can Dominic Calvert-Lewin break into England squad?

Leeds news: Can Dominic Calvert-Lewin break into England squad?

www.bbc.co.uk

Dominic Calvert-Lewin: Leeds United striker could be 'in conversation' for England's World Cup squad

Dominic Calvert-Lewin is the top English scorer in the Premier League this season - can he force his way back into the national squad five years after his last cap?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Fair bit of coverage re: England call up on BBC today;

Leeds news: Can Dominic Calvert-Lewin break into England squad?

Leeds news: Can Dominic Calvert-Lewin break into England squad?

www.bbc.co.uk

Dominic Calvert-Lewin: Leeds United striker could be 'in conversation' for England's World Cup squad

Dominic Calvert-Lewin is the top English scorer in the Premier League this season - can he force his way back into the national squad five years after his last cap?

www.bbc.co.uk

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[GrandOldTeam]

You’re enjoying yourself here

Indeed. For years I defended the lad, saying we were letting him down and he'd do well elsewhere. Took a lot of flak for saying he'd score double figures at most teams in the league, and how he wasn't solely responsible for us routinely bottom 5 goals scored in the league.

Now I'm collecting my dividends.

Here's the thing, he'd be struggling at us now if he stayed. There's a reason we don't score many goals, and it's not as simple as crap strikers - though it plays a part. With Calvert-Lewin though, I knew he could score goals in the Prem - not sure Barry can.

 

[Ring master]

He's literally woke up for the month of December. Loads of Leeds fans were moaning about him all season. Let's see if his run carries on

 

[Bedfordblue]

Here's the thing, he'd be struggling at us now if he stayed. There's a reason we don't score many goals, and it's not as simple as crap strikers - though it plays a part. With Calvert-Lewin though, I knew he could score goals in the Prem - not sure Barry can.

Much as I agree with this, I do struggle to justify to myself why so many managers have failed to get a reasonable goal return from our strikers.

 

[Toffeepot]

We all know that from watching Beto and Barry this season.

And every other striker in the league misses far more than they score

 

[Rob17896]

Can't argue with this.
I've no ill feeling towards him but he just wasn't good enough for us.
Just because he's better than Barry and Betto doesn't make him what we needed.
We let him go and replaced him with worse. That's poor recruitment.
Let's not kid ourselves he some kind of lethal striker, he average at best.

Average would have us six or seven points better off at least.

 

[Toffeepot]

Much as I agree with this, I do struggle to justify to myself why so many managers have failed to get a reasonable goal return from our strikers.

Our fanbase usually throw pelters at strikers who miss a few in a row. One they forgive. Two they tolerate. Three or more? Well...you'd need to break more than your eye socket not scoring to avoid a booing!

The support Barry got recently was refreshing, hopefully that's a collective mind shift

 

[Efcjake]

We withdrew the contract offer. Had we have offered him say 100k p/w he would have signed on, and we would probably be in the top 6 now.by playing him, over the substantially inferior Beto and Barry.

Let's be honest, anyone who had even the vaguest understanding of football could say he is far beyond what either of those two can deliver (combined).

When? I'd love to see the source.

Before or after he had rejected multiple offers from us?

 

[Efcjake]

It was the rest of dcl game that some of us could appreciate - there was a reason every manager had him starting. It’s madness you cannot understand this

I understand fine that some people think it's reasonable to hand out massive wage increases to strikers who score 16 league goals in four years.

I simply disagree.

Winning headers and playing back to goal and not scoring goals isn't worth 100k a week.

The only reason the "I told you so" crowd is out is because he finally found his scoring touch again, not because of his hold up play.

 

[Efcjake]

We withdrew the contract offer. Had we have offered him say 100k p/w he would have signed on, and we would probably be in the top 6 now.by playing him, over the substantially inferior Beto and Barry.

Let's be honest, anyone who had even the vaguest understanding of football could say he is far beyond what either of those two can deliver (combined).

Is this your source for that?

Everton offered Dominic Calvert-Lewin a new four-year deal at the end of 2024, but he chose not to accept it, according to The Times.



The Toffees subsequently withdrew it after the reappointment of David Moyes as manager, and the 28-year-old left the club at the end of his deal.

Everton withdrew four-year deal offered Dominic Calvert-Lewin after the reappointment of David Moyes

Everton offered Dominic Calvert-Lewin a new four-year deal at the end of 2024, but he chose not to accept it, according to The Times.The Toffees subsequently withdrew it after the reappointment of Dav...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

 

[Efcjake]

Just my opinion, but we were a better side last two seasons when he was in the team, hid strength was holding the ball up, sadly, his finishing let him down. Glad he is doing well at Leeds, and good luck to the lad, maybe the change of club was what he needed.

The table says otherwise and that'll do me.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I understand fine that some people think it's reasonable to hand out massive wage increases to strikers who score 16 league goals in four years.

I simply disagree.

Winning headers and playing back to goal and not scoring goals isn't worth 100k a week.

The only reason the "I told you so" crowd is out is because he finally found his scoring touch again, not because of his hold up play.

Again, you have to consider what the alternative is.

You have to replace him, and as our signings over the past decade have shown - it's not easy. You talk £100k a week, I was saying pay him it because it beats paying £15m for Sportings 4th (or 5th?) choice striker, and we had Beto FFS. Appreciate you thought Beto would score 15+ this season, but he's never good enough. I wasn't confident in our ability to replace him, especially considering the amount we had to sign.

Is this your source for that?

Everton withdrew four-year deal offered Dominic Calvert-Lewin after the reappointment of David Moyes

Everton offered Dominic Calvert-Lewin a new four-year deal at the end of 2024, but he chose not to accept it, according to The Times.The Toffees subsequently withdrew it after the reappointment of Dav...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

He declined the offer we made under Dyche - because the club was a basketcase and he didnt like his role in Dyche's team.

We pulled the same offer we left on the table when Moyes come in - the assumption is simply, Moyes didn't want him. If Everton wanted to keep him, we'd have met his demands and he'd still be an Everton player.

Lets hope time proves the club correct - Calvert-Lewin could pull up next game, and Barry finds his feet.

 

[Efcjake]

Think it's a cope mentality that mate.

In May he'd just changed rep and was proactively talking up wanting to stay "who wouldn't want to be part of whats coming up at Everton" etc. This was planted, proactive PR - you don't do that unless there's intent to stay.

Ultimately, he went for the money - money he was always going to get as a free agent, that Everton wouldn't offer.

If Sheff Utd got promoted before an almighty bottle job, he'd have got more money from them than Everton had on the table.

It was the same with Doucoure, who'd still be an Everton player now if he accepted less money. Both wanted to be paid what they felt they deserved. It was on Everton, who decided to let them go.

Yes after 18 months of the cheeky tit telling us he didn't want to know he changed his tune. I'm not surprised people at the club were fed up of that attitude he displayed.

He was acting like he was far too good for us and didn't want to entertain a contract here then came back with his begging bowl when we had already been told to plan without him by his agents.

If he wanted to be here then he'd still be here. He chose to reject contracts and walk away, I can't be arsed with this story you're selling about it all being on the club.

How many contracts did he turn down? I have it at 2-3.