DoF satisfaction rating: summer transfer window 2019/20 season

[Charro]

A month since the last time this thread was posted in. Nestling just over the relegation zone now.

The manager is getting his rightful share of the stick. I sense there's still a few clinging onto their belief Brands is "special" though. An increasingly ludicrous position to retain IMO, but each to their own.

He's taken us from 8th to 17th, and spent £250M of the club's money getting there. In any normal industry there's blood on the carpet and he's down the road in an instant.

In any normal industry they kill people who they think are underperforming?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

In any normal industry they kill people who they think are underperforming?

If you're working for a power mad dictator or Jerry Lee Lewis... Yes.

 

[Yarrgh]

Got Kean in and I don't think he was bad business for the age/ potential of the lad. However we needed a striker who could hit the ground running. So that's a big miss.

And the absence of Zouma or another centre back is a major concern.

Gblammo and Delph coming in for Gana, I can't judge too harshly as one is injured and the Delph had replaced the requirement for Morgan, then I'd be happy. Gomes injury also makes this look like a poor performance, but there's a few midfielders who should be stepping up if they want their chance. Gomes I think would have been impossible to keep, and I don't know how the deal could have been increased in our favour though PSG got a bargain.

Would Zaha have made things better? Probably - but there was no option B when that fell through. Would Doucoure had made things better? Possibly, especially with the injury to Gomes but hindsight is 20-20.

Permanent deals for all the driftwood? Practically impossible - unless they were well subsidized by us. I don't know what Brands remit is, but it's not practicing magic as that's the only way to get rid of the likes of Yassick, Niasse or Schneiderlin.

Overall, I think his performance wasn't up to scratch. The players don't seem to match exactly what Silva wants them to do. But that's a problem on Silva also as he needs to adapt. There was a lot of time spent on a few targets, with no apparent movement elsewhere if they fell through (Zaha and Zouma). And the key positions of striker and centre back were not suitably addressed. Centre midfield, it's hard to say with the injuries. So no, now the dust has settled well and truly, Brands did not deliver.

Will he deliver in January? I hope he has a notion of what he can do if anything. If you can't see ways to improve that squad, you need to reconsider your role as DoF. If there is no value in the market, then he better be at the top of his game come next summer, otherwise it would be his last if I was the man making that type of decision.

He needs to get half a team of quality still. After that he needs to refresh with 2-3 players a season. It's going to take 2 more seasons before we even get to not trying to have to get in half a dozen players in each summer. I don't want to be getting in a new DoF so I hope he sorts us out the January and Summer transfer windows in 2020.

I'm not anti- Brands, but he didn't perform well enough in summer.

 

[davek]

Needed to find a gem this summer to kick this squad on. Instead we got Iwobi from Arsenal. A player from a team we are supposed to be competing with that they deemed wasn't good enough.

Zaha would have been the one; we ended up with Haha.

 

[davek]

No Marcel Brands hasn't.

We've gone backwards on his watch.

Director of Football...WTF is he directing?

 

[nsno-chris]

a GOD amongst men

 

[davek]

Hindsight is wonderful but sometimes I do ask myself of the wisdom of making a lot of our signings from clubs like Barcelona, Juventus, Man City. Are they going to be hungry enough? Have we signed too many players who are on a downward trajectory and coming to Everton to coast?

Silva has to take responsibility for what happens on the field and so will ultimately lose his job sooner or later. I think that's as near to inevitable as you can get now, and maybe imminent depending on tomorrows result (not that I am in the camp of hoping we lose to facilitate that - never).

Surely Moshiri will delegate full responsibility for the next appointment to him and this is what I feel will completely define Brands at Everton. Brands has some degree of wriggle room with the Silva appointment but he won't get any with the next one.

Overall though, it's sobering to reflect on where we are years into Moshiri's "reign". We are a joke again, and I'm embarrassed by it.

All this brouhaha for absolutely nothing. It's becoming beyond parody, ridiculous.

Moshiri, and everyone in the boardroom have presided over yet another fine mess.

Exactly.

It's a flawed methodolgy. It's a busted flush. And it's tied up with being controlled by super agents who want to park misfring client/players for big cash fees and big wages.

We are onto a mugs game here with Brands.

I;d get him down the road quicker than I would Silva, TBH.

 

[davek]

In all fairness mate form a business point of view I understood that sale. He got a deserved dream move, we got great service and a tidy profit and we replaced him with 2 midfielders.

The issue we've had there is Gbamin injury, Delphs showing that his poor injury record throughout his career wasn't suddenly going to magic itself away (but probably still worth the 8m punt in their opinion)

For me, we basically said DCL and a very inexperienced Kean would be good enough to get the goals, and left ourselves far too light at the back even judging it on the niggles that Mina had last season that should have been cause for probably bringing in 2 centre backs let alone 1.

The midfield for me, we've been unfortunate injury wise but the other 2 positions was negligible

Brands sold a player with zero leverage on us: bought for a few quid, 3 years left on his contract. He should have been made to stay. What's he going to do, go on strike? Doesn't sound like the type to me anyway. He'd have knuckled down. He was a key part of Silva's plans.

What we ended up with was a poor fee from a mega rich club and a punt on Gbamin and a crock like Delph.

That sale has done more than anything to destabilise the team. He was that influential.

 

[billyblue80]

Brands sold a player with zero leverage on us: bought for a few quid, 3 years left on his contract. He should have been made to stay. What's he going to do, go on strike? Doesn't sound like the type to me anyway. He'd have knuckled down. He was a key part of Silva's plans.

What we ended up with was a poor fee from a mega-rich club and a punt on Gbamin and a crock like Delph.

That sale has done more than anything to destabilise the team. He was that influential.

I am guessing he was promised a move last summer. It's hard to judge as Gbamin was the replacement but certainly, we needed to restructure our midfield months ago as it was obvious he was leaving plus he's 30 you have to plan ahead. Thus it's certainly lacking protection, pace, power and physicality without Gana. As for Brands's overall performance, he could have done better, a proven CB and an experienced forward were needed. But also Silva should be doing better with what he has. But there may be reasons why we didn't get everything we wanted this window, I am sure he had a list but maybe Marco has to agree to each purchase and convincing the kind of targets we want may be difficult. I do wonder if signing squad players from big teams does mean they think they are better than they are and they lack hunger in away games.

 

[maccavennie]

Brands sold a player with zero leverage on us: bought for a few quid, 3 years left on his contract. He should have been made to stay. What's he going to do, go on strike? Doesn't sound like the type to me anyway. He'd have knuckled down. He was a key part of Silva's plans.

What we ended up with was a poor fee from a mega rich club and a punt on Gbamin and a crock like Delph.

That sale has done more than anything to destabilise the team. He was that influential.

Gana was well told in Jan, knuckle down, don't rock the boat and you'll get your dream move in the summer.

You don't have CL clubs winning league titles knocking on your door and us turning around to the player saying "nah your not going anywhere cos we need you for our 8th place challenge this season".

We got good money for him, got great service for him and he's moved onto a club where he's gone on to star in the CL, something we are years away from providing any of our players.

Guess what will happen at the end of this season as well Dave, exactly the same thing with Digne, Richarlison etc who will want CL togger and a chance to win trophies.

That's not just on Brands, that's on our club for the best part of 30 odd years and it won't change unless we start challenging up top or winning trophies. We are always going to be a stepping stone club for players.

 

[Nyhus]

Yes. If he adds a CB and a senior striker in January and we stop having mega injury problems we’ll be fine.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Gana was well told in Jan, knuckle down, don't rock the boat and you'll get your dream move in the summer.

You don't have CL clubs winning league titles knocking on your door and us turning around to the player saying "nah your not going anywhere cos we need you for our 8th place challenge this season".

We got good money for him, got great service for him and he's moved onto a club where he's gone on to star in the CL, something we are years away from providing any of our players.

Guess what will happen at the end of this season as well Dave, exactly the same thing with Digne, Richarlison etc who will want CL togger and a chance to win trophies.

That's not just on Brands, that's on our club for the best part of 30 odd years and it won't change unless we start challenging up top or winning trophies. We are always going to be a stepping stone club for players.

This has to be the case.

Also, it's tough to truly judge Brands with all these injuries. Gana's direct replacement out for 3 months. Gomes with a 1 in 1,000 injury on that kind of tackle. Kean was pretty much lauded everywhere as a steal for us at that price, and he's young. Sure we could have used a proven striker, but it's not like we can buy whoever we want, regardless of what we pay them, b/c we've been terrible for so long. And "proven goal scorer" is the most expensive thing you can buy in the market.

Could Brands have done more? Perhaps. But I'm not laying this disaster solely at his feet.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

I am guessing he was promised a move last summer. It's hard to judge as Gbamin was the replacement but certainly, we needed to restructure our midfield months ago as it was obvious he was leaving plus he's 30 you have to plan ahead. Thus it's certainly lacking protection, pace, power and physicality without Gana. As for Brands's overall performance, he could have done better, a proven CB and an experienced forward were needed. But also Silva should be doing better with what he has. But there may be reasons why we didn't get everything we wanted this window, I am sure he had a list but maybe Marco has to agree to each purchase and convincing the kind of targets we want may be difficult. I do wonder if signing squad players from big teams does mean they think they are better than they are and they lack hunger in away games.

Absolutely this. There's enough talent on this squad, still, to be comfortably top half. Yes we've been unlucky with injuries and VAR has been a disaster, but Silva simply has to do better with what he's got

 

[davek]

I am guessing he was promised a move last summer. It's hard to judge as Gbamin was the replacement but certainly, we needed to restructure our midfield months ago as it was obvious he was leaving plus he's 30 you have to plan ahead. Thus it's certainly lacking protection, pace, power and physicality without Gana. As for Brands's overall performance, he could have done better, a proven CB and an experienced forward were needed. But also Silva should be doing better with what he has. But there may be reasons why we didn't get everything we wanted this window, I am sure he had a list but maybe Marco has to agree to each purchase and convincing the kind of targets we want may be difficult. I do wonder if signing squad players from big teams does mean they think they are better than they are and they lack hunger in away games.

It didn't look to me that this was a fait accompli on Gueye. Silva certainly gave the impression that he was pissed off Gueye was sold this summer.

Overall, I dont see a lot of co-ordination between Brands and Silva.

 

[davek]

Gana was well told in Jan, knuckle down, don't rock the boat and you'll get your dream move in the summer.

You don't have CL clubs winning league titles knocking on your door and us turning around to the player saying "nah your not going anywhere cos we need you for our 8th place challenge this season".

We got good money for him, got great service for him and he's moved onto a club where he's gone on to star in the CL, something we are years away from providing any of our players.

Guess what will happen at the end of this season as well Dave, exactly the same thing with Digne, Richarlison etc who will want CL togger and a chance to win trophies.

That's not just on Brands, that's on our club for the best part of 30 odd years and it won't change unless we start challenging up top or winning trophies. We are always going to be a stepping stone club for players.

That's just speculation mate.

The more likely explanation is that this DoF of ours is a cats paw for agents who want to set up their CL clients with players they want; in exchange for that, they hand him a list of players they either represent or have influence over who cant quite make CL elite club's first team.