Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

[riddick]

Appreciate the thoughts and comments here. Haven't really been in a chatty mood obviously lately tho, I apologize. Seeing a psychiatrist in a couple hours, hopefully that goes well but the reviews on the guy are a bit...eesh. got called from my insurance company that they assigned a caseworker to assist, we discussed what steps need to be done starting today. If this doctor doesn't work out she said she has a list of others she will call on to get me a replacement.

Not hoping for the worst obviously, just preparing in case this isn't great. Last time I spoke with someone I had to check myself in so saying I'm a bit worried is a tad of an understatement.

Aaaand that was awesome. Apparently the doctor has either moved, retired or gone out of business completely months ago with no forwarding information. And I can't get through to anyone to find out how they were assigned to me. Sooooooo back to negative square 1 as at least I had attempted an open mind about speaking with him.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Aaaand that was awesome. Apparently the doctor has either moved, retired or gone out of business completely months ago with no forwarding information. And I can't get through to anyone to find out how they were assigned to me. Sooooooo back to negative square 1 as at least I had attempted an open mind about speaking with him.

Tbh your experience makes me want to scream about the US healthcare system and the lack of respect towards the patient. Insurance companies are worthless too, how come they have not update their directory. It just rubbish that someone in your state of mind has to deal with all this b.s to find a suitable psychiatrist that can help you out. I apologize about the rant and
I’m sorry your appointments are not going as they should be. Hopefully the case worker that was assigned to you has a better list of psychiatrist for you to research. Now days because of covid a lot of therapy appointments are also being conducted online so maybe you could find someone more qualified that may not be in your city but that’s covered by your insurance company?

 

[evertondotcom]

I haven’t checked this thread for a while because I’ve been busy with work, but it’s amazing to see everyone still supporting each other.

 

[riddick]

This is so [Poor language removed] awesome. So they called last night and rescheduled today but with a different person entirely who could only do via a Zoom meeting. This person read my whatevers and asked me about one of the medicines Ive been taking, a benzo. I told her "it's working great, haven't felt this "normal" in months"'. Well she didn't want to prescribe this to me as benzo's are massively addictive. Ok, I get it. I don't want any dependency on that as well. What do you think is a good replacement for this? "SSRI's". That's not a replacement for the Klonopim, that's a replacement for the other thing. You want me to stop taking the Klonopim which has eliminated almost all my anxiety and panic attacks, what is there to replace with? "Im not going to give you any benzos". That's not at all what Im asking for, Im telling you the Klonopim has helped tremendously and I'm fine NOT taking it, I just am going to probably need SOMETHING to replace with. Work with me, what is there that is NOT a benzo that you can give me? "SSRIs is what we should be giving you" Got frustrated and told her she wasn't listening to a thing I was saying because she kept on going in circles without listening.

Absolutely refused to listen to my point until she ended the [Poor language removed] call because "I can't deal with this".

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

This is so [Poor language removed] awesome. So they called last night and rescheduled today but with a different person entirely who could only do via a Zoom meeting. This person read my whatevers and asked me about one of the medicines Ive been taking, a benzo. I told her "it's working great, haven't felt this "normal" in months"'. Well she didn't want to prescribe this to me as benzo's are massively addictive. Ok, I get it. I don't want any dependency on that as well. What do you think is a good replacement for this? "SSRI's". That's not a replacement for the Klonopim, that's a replacement for the other thing. You want me to stop taking the Klonopim which has eliminated almost all my anxiety and panic attacks, what is there to replace with? "Im not going to give you any benzos". That's not at all what Im asking for, Im telling you the Klonopim has helped tremendously and I'm fine NOT taking it, I just am going to probably need SOMETHING to replace with. Work with me, what is there that is NOT a benzo that you can give me? "SSRIs is what we should be giving you" Got frustrated and told her she wasn't listening to a thing I was saying because she kept on going in circles without listening.

Absolutely refused to listen to my point until she ended the [Poor language removed] call because "I can't deal with this".

Holy moly man. I’m so sorry you’re having to endure this nonsense “service” on top of the issues that necessitated them.

You’re absolutely right to be as angry as you are and, as long as you channel it correctly, I hope it’s that justified outrage that gets these idiots to see a bit of sense and listen to/work with you to find the right solution.

 

[COYBL25]

This is so [Poor language removed] awesome. So they called last night and rescheduled today but with a different person entirely who could only do via a Zoom meeting. This person read my whatevers and asked me about one of the medicines Ive been taking, a benzo. I told her "it's working great, haven't felt this "normal" in months"'. Well she didn't want to prescribe this to me as benzo's are massively addictive. Ok, I get it. I don't want any dependency on that as well. What do you think is a good replacement for this? "SSRI's". That's not a replacement for the Klonopim, that's a replacement for the other thing. You want me to stop taking the Klonopim which has eliminated almost all my anxiety and panic attacks, what is there to replace with? "Im not going to give you any benzos". That's not at all what Im asking for, Im telling you the Klonopim has helped tremendously and I'm fine NOT taking it, I just am going to probably need SOMETHING to replace with. Work with me, what is there that is NOT a benzo that you can give me? "SSRIs is what we should be giving you" Got frustrated and told her she wasn't listening to a thing I was saying because she kept on going in circles without listening.

Absolutely refused to listen to my point until she ended the [Poor language removed] call because "I can't deal with this".

As you describe mate, Benzo`s are the most wonderful thing for relieving anxiety, but they`re massively addictive and your body also builds up a tolerance to them, meaning you have to keep upping the dose to get the same effect, which is incredibly dangerous.

Due to a lazy GP, continually prescribing them, I became unknowingly addicted to them and only actually realised I was addicted when I tried to come off them, which was similar to when Euan McGregor goes cold turkey in Train Spotting !

So she was right in wanting to take you off them, but she should`ve explained what your options were with regards to the different types of SSRI`s, as some treat anxiety as well as depression, but others don`t.

Was she a GP or a Nurse Practitioner, as I think you need to see someone face to face, rather than via Zoom, as for something as complex as your situation, it`s just not the same.

Out of all the meds I`ve taken, nothing has ever worked so effectively as Benzo`s, it`s a tragedy that they haven`t been able to find a way to make them non addictive.

 

[anjelikaferrett]

This is so [Poor language removed] awesome. So they called last night and rescheduled today but with a different person entirely who could only do via a Zoom meeting. This person read my whatevers and asked me about one of the medicines Ive been taking, a benzo. I told her "it's working great, haven't felt this "normal" in months"'. Well she didn't want to prescribe this to me as benzo's are massively addictive. Ok, I get it. I don't want any dependency on that as well. What do you think is a good replacement for this? "SSRI's". That's not a replacement for the Klonopim, that's a replacement for the other thing. You want me to stop taking the Klonopim which has eliminated almost all my anxiety and panic attacks, what is there to replace with? "Im not going to give you any benzos". That's not at all what Im asking for, Im telling you the Klonopim has helped tremendously and I'm fine NOT taking it, I just am going to probably need SOMETHING to replace with. Work with me, what is there that is NOT a benzo that you can give me? "SSRIs is what we should be giving you" Got frustrated and told her she wasn't listening to a thing I was saying because she kept on going in circles without listening.

Absolutely refused to listen to my point until she ended the [Poor language removed] call because "I can't deal with this".

That's awful. Unfortunately there are some professionals who are set to transmit but never receive. They don't listen to a word you say. It must be very disheartening for you but keep going. You'll find someone who will listen to you and have some empathy with you.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Have alluded before that a close family member had a complete breakdown in May/June 2020.

Close to being an inpatient for their own sake and I was surprised they weren’t, probably Covid and that she had a support bubble I’m thinking.

It’s still day by day, some good, some worse than bad. The CBT sessions were excellent but for an older person it’s hard to change the habit of a life time.

Over the time we have met Consultants, Psychiatrists. CPNs, even the lad Davey on the front desk met us with a big smile and chat like we were family.

Just want to encourage anyone having a hard time to talk to your GP. There is so much support out there and they will understand how you feel and what you are talking about.

 

[riddick]

Holy moly man. I’m so sorry you’re having to endure this nonsense “service” on top of the issues that necessitated them.

You’re absolutely right to be as angry as you are and, as long as you channel it correctly, I hope it’s that justified outrage that gets these idiots to see a bit of sense and listen to/work with you to find the right solution.

It's almost comical honestly. Like @Sassy Colombian said, it's just yet another instance of showing how terrible the US "healthcare" system is. I MIGHT have a path tho, so don't want to hold my breathe for too long as I'd pass out but it's just....wtf, I just am pleading for help. Why the hell isn't anyone WILLING to?

 

[Earwigjoe]

It's almost comical honestly. Like @Sassy Colombian said, it's just yet another instance of showing how terrible the US "healthcare" system is. I MIGHT have a path tho, so don't want to hold my breathe for too long as I'd pass out but it's just....wtf, I just am pleading for help. Why the hell isn't anyone WILLING to?

Thats appalling mate, i dont know your health care setup over there but thats shockingly bad mate. I really hope you can get something sorted soon, I hope the path you can see buddy will be more rewarding than what you've just been through. Until then mate keep talking and venting if all we can do here is listen - brother we're all ears vent away...

 

[Earwigjoe]

Have alluded before that a close family member had a complete breakdown in May/June 2020.

Close to being an inpatient for their own sake and I was surprised they weren’t, probably Covid and that she had a support bubble I’m thinking.

It’s still day by day, some good, some worse than bad. The CBT sessions were excellent but for an older person it’s hard to change the habit of a life time.

Over the time we have met Consultants, Psychiatrists. CPNs, even the lad Davey on the front desk met us with a big smile and chat like we were family.

Just want to encourage anyone having a hard time to talk to your GP. There is so much support out there and they will understand how you feel and what you are talking about.

Absolutely Armagh people just gotta talk, swallow our pride and talk, ask for help from a gp, teacher, trusted family member, priest anyone who'll listen. Pride is a terrible thing just ask for help. i wasted too many years before seeking help for my wife it nearly cost us our marriage and our family- it did cost us years we'll never get back so please people just talk - tell people youre struggling. We all need help at times. Theres never been anyone ever anywhere that hasnt needed help, life is precious, time is precious and you are precious - be brave speak up.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It's almost comical honestly. Like @Sassy Colombian said, it's just yet another instance of showing how terrible the US "healthcare" system is. I MIGHT have a path tho, so don't want to hold my breathe for too long as I'd pass out but it's just....wtf, I just am pleading for help. Why the hell isn't anyone WILLING to?

It is quite beautiful to see how many people care about you, mate, and it's great to see how brave and strong you are in facing and talking about your worries. I have been through times in which I did not have your strength and did not open up and talk about my troubles - I wish I had found your strength as, in reflection, it would have made things better. Help will come, even if it feels impossible right now and I hope that you can find some comfort in knowing that you are not alone in feeling this way, we all go through dark times, and not always Everton's doing! If you ever want a chat offline PM me, but be warned my jokes are famously terrible!

 

[Bungle]

I was diagnosed with PTSD yesterday which was caused by childhood trauma, I've been treated for depression/anxiety for most of my adult life but nothing ever really felt like it got to the root of the problems, however I started some sessions with a new woman a few weeks ago and she's just about the best person I've ever spoken to about the issues.

I've always associated PTSD with the obvious things like soldiers coming back from conflicts or survivors of massive accidents, so I've never really explored it. This new persons explanation of childhood related PTSD have explained a lot about what's been going on with me for 25 years or more and it feels like both a massive relief but I'm also a bit gutted that it's never been mentioned before or that I didn't figure it out myself so it could be treated a lot earlier. Anyhow, my sessions with this new woman now stop so that I can be treated specifically for PTSD before I return to her, I suspect it'll be a difficult experience to re-live certain things but hopefully I come out the other end feeling better for it.

 

[Harryflashman]

I was diagnosed with PTSD yesterday which was caused by childhood trauma, I've been treated for depression/anxiety for most of my adult life but nothing ever really felt like it got to the root of the problems, however I started some sessions with a new woman a few weeks ago and she's just about the best person I've ever spoken to about the issues.

I've always associated PTSD with the obvious things like soldiers coming back from conflicts or survivors of massive accidents, so I've never really explored it. This new persons explanation of childhood related PTSD have explained a lot about what's been going on with me for 25 years or more and it feels like both a massive relief but I'm also a bit gutted that it's never been mentioned before or that I didn't figure it out myself so it could be treated a lot earlier. Anyhow, my sessions with this new woman now stop so that I can be treated specifically for PTSD before I return to her, I suspect it'll be a difficult experience to re-live certain things but hopefully I come out the other end feeling better for it.

Recognising it Is huge , CBT or EMDR are in their own way both incredibly ‘good’ at dealing with the issues . It’s a journey mate but you’ve taken a huge first step .

 

[Bungle]

Recognising it Is huge , CBT or EMDR are in their own way both incredibly ‘good’ at dealing with the issues . It’s a journey mate but you’ve taken a huge first step .

Yep they're the 2 she mentioned yesterday so will find out Thursday next week exactly what the plan is, eager to just get it started now.