2023/24 Dele

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Is he any closer to 70% yet ?

Are you?

 

[PhilRegan]

Are you?

No I'm still injured , I'm injured that much my friends call me fabian behind my back and they think I don't know.

 

[Michael Tsui]

….I know nothing about drugs and I have no idea what’s legal and what’s illegal. I’m more concerned about the impact of lengthy use of any substance on a professional footballers body allied with being largely inactive from playing for two years.

Good luck to him in his endeavours to recover but as far as my football club is concerned we shouldn’t be investing any more monies in him than we are currently committed to.

Then again I'd call for a tobacco and alcohol ban for footballers at a national and provisionally at a international level - caught smoking or drinking? Ban. DUI? Permaban.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Then again I'd call for a tobacco and alcohol ban for footballers at a national and provisionally at a international level - caught smoking or drinking? Ban. DUI? Permaban.

Why are you banning people from their job? Or have I missed a joke?

 

[paulf]

Holy smoke..walked into the crown court professional...

 

[Tel001]

No mate, not in this hypothetical scenario.

Hmm … if your asking if I would rather have 10m and lose either my family or use of my limbs then obviously I wouldn’t prefer the money.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

….I know nothing about drugs and I have no idea what’s legal and what’s illegal. I’m more concerned about the impact of lengthy use of any substance on a professional footballers body allied with being largely inactive from playing for two years.

Good luck to him in his endeavours to recover but as far as my football club is concerned we shouldn’t be investing any more monies in him than we are currently committed to.

Thankfully there will be people with significantly more insight than you (or me) who will use actual evidence and data to make that determination. By your logic, he could (hypothetically) come back to training, be absolutely smashing it, back to his previous best, making the rest of our players look like the cloggers that most of them are on a daily basis and you'd be advocating binning him off.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Well those things I’m assuming would have happened weather I found or was given the 10m

So in those scenarios I would be able to take time off work and deal with the loss of my loved ones without the stress of money

In the second scenario at least I would be able to convert my house and get the full time care I would need without being a burden on the NHS.

In any case both those scenarios would be improved if I had 10m

People who say money doesn’t buy you happiness have never had money…

Give me 10m and I would be the happiest man alive

Feel like you're missing the point.

Is being abused as a child and having a horrendous upbringing a bit easier to deal with in adulthood if you have money than if you don't? Yes, possibly (or even probably).

Does that make it EASY? No. Does it mean it's no longer something that would have a significant impact on your mental state? No.

Money buys happiness if (and only if) the rest of your life is in a semi-decent state. It does relatively little to mitigate for pre-existing, deeply ingrained trauma.

 

[Eggs]

Thankfully there will be people with significantly more insight than you (or me) who will use actual evidence and data to make that determination. By your logic, he could (hypothetically) come back to training, be absolutely smashing it, back to his previous best, making the rest of our players look like the cloggers that most of them are on a daily basis and you'd be advocating binning him off.

…without hesitation, I definitely would.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

…without hesitation, I definitely would.

Bizarre that

 

[st.domingo]

Clearly not one for a Hollywood ending, our Mr @Eggs lol

 

[Bedfordblue]

What if you were given £10m and then your whole family died?

What if you were given £10m and then lost the use of your limbs in a horrific car accident?

Thing with an argument like that is, would you rather be skint and either of those things happened or have £10m and be in the same state?
At the absolute least, money, will result in a higher standard of unhappiness.
It’s a different principle to money = happiness (which it doesn’t) but I know I’d rather have be rich than not.

 

[MikeH72]

Thing with an argument like that is, would you rather be skint and either of those things happened or have £10m and be in the same state?
At the absolute least, money, will result in a higher standard of unhappiness.
It’s a different principle to money = happiness (which it doesn’t) but I know I’d rather have be rich than not.

Yeah of course you’d rather have money than not, that just goes without saying. But that’s different to arguing that money literally equals happiness. There are some situations in life that no amount of money could ever fix.

 

[dCahill17]

Directly from the government:

Legal status under drugs legislation​

1.7. Non-legitimate use of nitrous oxide is currently controlled under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 (PSA). This means the production, supply, and importation, but not possession (aside from in custodial settings) of nitrous oxide for its psychoactive effects is illegal. Under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 it is an offence to supply nitrous oxide if a person knows, or is reckless as to whether, it will be used for its psychoactive effects.

1.8. Nitrous oxide is not currently controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971.


So unless you have evidence Dele supplied nitrous oxide to others (spoiler alert: you don’t) then he has done nothing legally answerable

Now please crawl back into your (presumably Daily Mail-lined) hole.

Directly from the government:

Legal status under drugs legislation​

1.7. Non-legitimate use of nitrous oxide is currently controlled under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 (PSA). This means the production, supply, and importation, but not possession (aside from in custodial settings) of nitrous oxide for its psychoactive effects is illegal. Under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 it is an offence to supply nitrous oxide if a person knows, or is reckless as to whether, it will be used for its psychoactive effects.

1.8. Nitrous oxide is not currently controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971.


So unless you have evidence Dele supplied nitrous oxide to others (spoiler alert: you don’t) then he has done nothing legally answerable

Now please crawl back into your (presumably Daily Mail-lined) hole.

Again you have missed the subtle point. It is not illegal to posses, however if you posses for psychoactive purposes then it is. That means what you have quoted can be true and what I am saying is true.


From your document:

1.7. Non-legitimate use of nitrous oxide is currently controlled under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 (PSA)

Funny how quoted 1.7 and 1.8 let’s see what 1.9 says:

“1.9. To note, in this report we refer to use of nitrous oxide for its psychoactive effects as ‘non-legitimate use’.”


Anyway let’s assume what you are saying is true, it’s still an illegal drug. And is not something you would ever see a professional like say Gareth Barry doing what Dele is doing.

As for the daily mail, back to your Guardian echo chamber.

 

[dCahill17]

That’s a shame because I think us all getting together and mass debating over Dele would probably help to ease the tension a bit

There is an implied term in mass debating. Notice I’m not taking part in it. Winkers