2025/26 David Moyes

Moyes isn’t here without the Friedkins. The takeover changed everything. No Moyes, no KDH, no Grealish, no Branthwaite, probably no Ndiaye, perhaps no Pickford. We were a debt ridden basket case before they stepped in.
And Moyes has done his job. We should shake his hand and thank him come the summer. Horses for courses. Dyche saved us. Moyes stabilised us. Next manager attracts better players and operates at that higher level. Progress.
 

Moyes has had 5 top 6 finishes with EFC.
How many times have EFC finished top 6 since 1987 ?
1 under Harvey, 1 under Royle & 1 under Martinez. So 3 times out of the other 25 seasons ?
Excluding 2003/04 he's never had us below 11th.
Not sure what people are expecting for a club that's outspent by 7 or 8 other clubs at least every year repeatedly bar the odd blip.
This. Apologies if I am blunt and dismissive but I'm fed up of the idiotic narrative that gets served up in relation to Moyes on a daily basis. It's completely counterfactual. He obviously has faults and makes mistakes but the criticism of him is way over the top and from those with a permanent preconceived agenda against him. None of the managers who took charge since Moyes have better records despite most of them having spent significantly more than Moyes. Any evidence which goes against the agenda is dismissed and goal posts are moved.
 
Should we as fans celebrate that over an FA Cup triumph? Should the players hold the cheque aloft on their lap of honour because they made the club an extra £500k?

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make tbh mate. We're never going to win the prem but we have fans lording over a 6th place finish over an FA Cup.
We're probably not going to win a Cup either without a big helping of luck either. Being good in the Premier League gives you a better chance of competing for a cup than being bad in the Premier League.
 
Fair enough, still not year in and year out though, but the context of the discussion is Moyes achieved more than Royle. Imo an FA Cup win is success and as far as I'm aware we don't get a trophy for finishing 6th.
Each to their own but league position determines how good a job a manager has done. Do you think Martinez winning the FA cup and getting relegated was a more successful season than managers who kept their club in the premier League? There's no trophy for that. I'd sooner won games week in week out throughout the season. The Martinez 5th season was far better than the Royale cup final win season.
 
And Moyes has done his job. We should shake his hand and thank him come the summer. Horses for courses. Dyche saved us. Moyes stabilised us. Next manager attracts better players and operates at that higher level. Progress.
West Ham thought the same. And none of the big names managers we brought in have done a good job. Most people want an unknown hipster.
 

The point most rational people understand is that you are holding him up to an ideal that doesn't exist. You can't assess a manager based on one or two results. Moyes' overall performance in both spells with us has been exceptional very very few managers would have outperformed him to any meaningful extent given the same resources. If you look at both spells in their entirety the only teams that have outperformed Moyes Everton would be the massive budget teams. And he outperformed lots of teams with bigger budgets.
He had quite a budget this off-season and blew a lot of it on Dibling and Barry who have unanimously been panned so far by the fan base as signings. I put forward my concerns in a rational way and you insinuate I am not rational. Says a lot about your agenda here.
 
We're probably not going to win a Cup either without a big helping of luck either. Being good in the Premier League gives you a better chance of competing for a cup than being bad in the Premier League.


I'm more confused now. You'd rather us not win a cup, to get a higher place in the league to help us to compete for a cup?

Look at the crap clubs that have won either domestic cup since we last won one. Even by law of averages we probably should have fluked one in 30 years, so I disagree there.

We should have won the Europa in 08 as well, but stupid tactics away in Florence put a stop to that.
 
Moyes has had 5 top 6 finishes with EFC.
How many times have EFC finished top 6 since 1987 ?
1 under Harvey, 1 under Royle & 1 under Martinez. So 3 times out of the other 25 seasons ?
Excluding 2003/04 he's never had us below 11th.
Not sure what people are expecting for a club that's outspent by 7 or 8 other clubs at least every year repeatedly bar the odd blip.
It’s a real shame Moyes left just before the money train arrived. We’d have been much higher and probably would have gotten some silverware.
 
Each to their own but league position determines how good a job a manager has done. Do you think Martinez winning the FA cup and getting relegated was a more successful season than managers who kept their club in the premier League? There's no trophy for that. I'd sooner won games week in week out throughout the season. The Martinez 5th season was far better than the Royale cup final win season.

You would have to ask a Wigan fan that. I know I have fonder memories of winning the FA Cup than I do of finishing 5th or 6th though.
 

And Moyes has done his job. We should shake his hand and thank him come the summer. Horses for courses. Dyche saved us. Moyes stabilised us. Next manager attracts better players and operates at that higher level. Progress.
This is just a foolish argument. Moyes is an expert squad builder and a highly respected coach. Which manager is going to “attract better players?” Playing for Moyes attracted Grealish, so you have a very high bar.
 

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