2025/26 David Moyes

[Bluebonic]

I didnt want Moyes back, absolutely didn’t, but when he came back he made a difference undoubtedly. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do with Grealish, Ndiaye and KDH in the team, but the old flaws in his managerial style that made me unhappy to see his return are resurfacing. He can be incredibly one dimensional, to the extent that you can set your watch on the times he will make his subs (usually at 82 minutes). He will also play a certain way long after every opposition manager has sussed him out.

A good manager develops a style that works and applies it relentlessly. A very good manager recognises when that style is ineffective and has an alternative (less preferred style) that he will apply. Moyes does not have that alternative style, he isn't as dogged as the Russel Martin’s of the world, but when you compare him with the likes of Glasner at Palace they are chalk and cheese.

 

[Mick OMalley]

I don't think we played bad at all mate.

Tarki's early booking was detrimental because the whole back line was terrified to throw a challenge in because defensively we were walking a tightrope.

That was a Santo master class mate.

4-5-1 sit in and hit on break.

In the space of a few months we've got from a teams that concedes possession to a team that has to go at teams.

This teams is still massively short in 3 areas in my personal opinion.

I must have watched a different game because I thought we were predictable and created nothing, a dreadful game to watch

 

[blue61]

I didnt want Moyes back, absolutely didn’t, but when he came back he made a difference undoubtedly. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do with Grealish, Ndiaye and KDH in the team, but the old flaws in his managerial style that made me unhappy to see his return are resurfacing. He can be incredibly one dimensional, to the extent that you can set your watch on the times he will make his subs (usually at 82 minutes). He will also play a certain way long after every opposition manager has sussed him out.

A good manager develops a style that works and applies it relentlessly. A very good manager recognises when that style is ineffective and has an alternative (less preferred style) that he will apply. Moyes does not have that alternative style, he isn't as dogged as the Russel Martin’s of the world, but when you compare him with the likes of Glasner at Palace they are chalk and cheese.

Completely agree with all of this. He's managed to suck all the optimism out of the season in 9 days, by being too rigid and one dimensional. Thanks for last season, but he looks out of touch with modern togger to me. Our squad isn't perfect, but they were crumbling last night and he just stood there and changed nothing.
He's reminding me why I was glad to see him go last time.

 

[McCallsVolley]

I blame Moyes for signing Bowen for West Ham.

 

[Username.]

Moyes is not the coach / manager to carry us forward we need to leave the past in the past, everyone could see O'brien was getting ripped apart and nydiaye was poor, and to be honest so was grealish, but he let it drift and paid the price.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I didnt want Moyes back, absolutely didn’t, but when he came back he made a difference undoubtedly. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do with Grealish, Ndiaye and KDH in the team, but the old flaws in his managerial style that made me unhappy to see his return are resurfacing. He can be incredibly one dimensional, to the extent that you can set your watch on the times he will make his subs (usually at 82 minutes). He will also play a certain way long after every opposition manager has sussed him out.

A good manager develops a style that works and applies it relentlessly. A very good manager recognises when that style is ineffective and has an alternative (less preferred style) that he will apply. Moyes does not have that alternative style, he isn't as dogged as the Russel Martin’s of the world, but when you compare him with the likes of Glasner at Palace they are chalk and cheese.

Iraola is another example, doesn't have the best players but his high intensity and front foot football troubles even the best teams. Moyes has always been too meek and respectable of the oppositions qualities he even tried to say yesterday that not beating West Ham at home isn't too surprising as they have a Brazilian and English international.

 

[Eggs]

Hels at least direct. We have a lot of ball players like Grealish, KDH, Ndiaye, Dibling - but none of them are as direct as Alcaraz.

We need that to 'leaven' out our line of attack on the opposition goal.

….Alcaraz seems a bit of a one-trick pony, he’s terrific at transitioning. He’ll run direct at the opposition and he can be trusted to pick the right pass at the right time.

Problem is, when you have a team under the cosh as we did for the first 20mins of that 2nd half, they sit in and Alcaraz is ineffective in that situation. I’d be thinking Moyes wants more from him than he’s showing in games, hence he’s down the pecking order.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he looks more effective in away games. He was unlikely to replace KDH last night, he was linking very well with Grealish and looked our most likely source of a goal. I wouldn’t be critical of the substitutions, they seemed fairly obvious to me. We are suffering from not having an effective central striker.

 

[Curtis]

I get that Moyes like most managers have a preferred starting 11 that doesn't want to deviate from , at the same time if the momentum of the game is changing you have to sacrifice one of your favorites also subs exist beyond just reacting to situations, they should also be utilized anticipate tired legs or incorporate a new approach to throw off the opposing team. Just like dyche he doesn't usually seem to fathom the full worth of tactical subs other than a like for like replacement and it's usually when there's not a lot of time to affect the game.

 

[Curtis]

Sacking him at this point would be absurd but Im very irked by his obstinate and negative tactics disguised as pragmatism. The attack has improved over last season somewhat , but we still can't unlock teams when they sit back and I know people feel our strikers options are insufficient but we're not even playing them in , there's no clear tactics to actually provide the ball to the striker. Unless we can buy a striker who can create chances solely on his own ,which typically exists in a price range we've never been in before , we need to reconfigure our attacking approach further

 

[Eggs]

I get that Moyes like most managers have a preferred starting 11 that doesn't want to deviate from , at the same time if the momentum of the game is changing you have to sacrifice one of your favorites also subs exist beyond just reacting to situations, they should also be utilized anticipate tired legs or incorporate a new approach to throw off the opposing team. Just like dyche he doesn't usually seem to fathom the full worth of tactical subs other than a like for like replacement and it's usually when there's not a lot of time to affect the game.

….its not just a matter of using substitutions to win a game, he also has to ensure he doesn’t lose it.

It’s different if you’re already behind but from an attacking perspective Moyes attacking options last night were largely; Dibling for Ndiaye, Barry for Beto, Alcaraz for KDH/Grealish. He made 2 out of those 3 changes.

I suppose Alcaraz could have replaced Gueye or Garner but as I posted earlier, his direct transition play is more suited to when we counter.

I think we are really well set-up for speed and attacking threat from both full back positions. We don’t have that on either flank. What we’re also lacking is the most obvious failure to address our ineffective central strikers.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Stuff 20 pages!

Earlier subs or dare say it double subs throw a player under the bus. 18 out, 9 in, short on options. The gulf in quality is the issue, we all want Grealish and N'Diaye type players in every position, it aint happening in one window, it aint happening in three. The cult of expectation, no patience, want it all and want it now. Disappointing. west ham of all sides get the first goal in the league at BMD. Will get properly toxic when we eventually lose. Moyes out, Moyes retired, Moyes fired into space... etc

:/

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Seriously contending for Europe? I just want us to be able to thoroughly beat struggling teams at the bottom of the table

Definitely 2 more windows...wasn't so long ago we had to sell Gray to Saudi to keep the lights on.

One window after 3 years of chronic underinvestment isn't going to fix this club.

 

[Curtis]

Definitely 2 more windows...wasn't so long ago we had to sell Gray to Saudi to keep the lights on.

One window after 3 years of chronic underinvestment isn't going to fix this club.

Right now I'm just jaded and positive results have the potential to rewrite the narrative but right now I don't see us prospering under Moyes he's just too conservative with his outlook towards the game. 2 more windows? As in summer windows ?Bournemouth sold their entire starting backline this transfer window and were able to replace them I know it doesn't usually transpire that seamlessly. But I'm fatigued from supporting this club. Also I just wanted us to beat west ham not go to Europe. Moyes is just a curmudgeon naysayer an evolved form of dyche but with the same DNA

 

[MikeH72]

West Ham get Nuno in and look a million times better straight off the bat.

Wasn't it down to the size of his entourage that Moshiri walked away from a deal for him here?

FFS.

He brought Benitez in instead of him who you loved.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Right now I'm just jaded and positive results have the potential to rewrite the narrative but right now I don't see us prospering under Moyes he's just too conservative with his outlook towards the game. 2 more windows? As in summer windows ?Bournemouth sold their entire starting backline this transfer window and were able to replace them I know it doesn't usually transpire that seamlessly. But I'm fatigued from supporting this club. Also I just wanted us to beat west ham not go to Europe. Moyes is just a curmudgeon naysayer an evolved form of dyche but with the same DNA

Curtis....in the words of Bill Kenwright

"It's terrible but it's Everton"

In Moyes's head it's all about consolidation this season,people might not want we hear it but for a club that's been on life support for so long that's the reality.

All this being said I still think a semi competent forward is a game changer for us.