2025/26 David Moyes

[Saint Domingo]

I’d have taken 6 out of 9 from Fulham United Newcastle. It was a bad performance and they happen to poor teams which we are.

I come back to the same point which i made under Dyche that most of the players aren’t good enough and there’s no pace anywhere in the team.

This team will achieve nothing unless Branthwaite comes into the defence and a Onana replacement is found for midfield.

 

[Drico]

I’d have risen 6 out of 9 from Fulham United Newcastle. It was a bad performance and they happen to poor teams which we are.

I come back to the same point which i made under Dyche that most of the players aren’t good enough and there’s no pace anywhere in the team.

This team will achieve nothing unless Branthwaite comes into the defence and a Onana replacement is found for midfield.

I generally agree. If you look with a cold eye on our team, I don't think you can honestly say we have more than five positions nailed down for the near future. Pickford, Branthwaite, Dewsbury-Hall, Grealish, and Ndiaye. One of those is crocked, one is on loan, one is being played out of position, and one is probably going to attract other suitors come summer. Oh yeah, and one went AWOL yesterday.

The rest of the side HAS to be replaced, either for age purposes (Tarkowski, Gueye) or for competence reasons (no full backs, no strikers).

Therefore, inconsistency is baked in to this current side. However, January will tell a tale. Given that we need recruits every window to continue this rebuild, if the Friedkins keep their wallets in their pockets, then that is an indication of their summer plans.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The league and game is very different now to when he was in charge the first time around. The competition in the mid-pack is so stiff and it takes someone more innovative and ultimately a better manager to punch above their weight. Iraola and Glasner are doing that at Palace/Bournemouth and Brighton/Brentford are doing that as clubs. All of them sit in the bottom 6 of the wage bill in the league but are in the top half of the table and Palace of course won that FA Cup.

Palace get first dibs on overlooked London youth players.
The 3 B's all take chances on overseas prospects or buy heavy from the rs and flog em on to spurs somehow.
Part of the low wage bills means inclusions of lower contract buy out terms, so a player will slum it for a season or two on £25k a week (some slum huh!) knowing that if he produces the goods then the big ticket man utd move will happen and he's on harry maguire money. Happy days, the milky bars are on me!
We pay well, but not oil club money, not essex boys money (man utd), and not scandi money (rs). So where are we, pretty much in terms of money in the Villa layer but starting about 5 years behind.

What will wake us all up is moves from the billionaire/state cash wash clubs for assets like Ndiaye and Branthwaite. gordon was last? Lukaku before him? Fellaini and Stones before them?

I do find it amusing that in the week Moyes gets his much anticipated first win at a classic top 4 club it took a bad game vs a very expensive newcastle to get the Moyes out shouts whipped up again.

Everton, Laetor in maerore

 

[Rita_Poon]

Lowering the expectations, to say we're not at the same level is treason. Even if true.

@Clarky cat

 

[Clarky cat]

@Clarky cat

My history A level tells me it isn’t “treason”

 

[Rita_Poon]

My history A level tells me it isn’t “treason”

No, he isn’t being blamed for being honest. Hope that helps.

 

[kimonthemac_efc]

I’d have taken 6 out of 9 from Fulham United Newcastle. It was a bad performance and they happen to poor teams which we are.

I come back to the same point which i made under Dyche that most of the players aren’t good enough and there’s no pace anywhere in the team.

This team will achieve nothing unless Branthwaite comes into the defence and a Onana replacement is found for midfield.

Onana replacement? Guy was so hit and miss. Keane has been solid aswell. I agree with your first point but it has been ages since I have seen someone say they miss Onana

 

[bicycleheader]

I am happy he made those comments, a nice clear reminder of why I got very tired of him in his last spell. He quickly cancelled out the surprising positivity from the last game.

IMHO he puts himself and his own reputation first. That comment is to cover himself and has no other value.

Honesty it isn't, and I think anybody claiming that are unfortunately clinging too hard to the Moyes comfort blanket and are scared to let go.

I want the fresh start I thought the stadium would be. I've seen all this before.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Onana replacement? Guy was so hit and miss. Keane has been solid aswell. I agree with your first point but it has been ages since I have seen someone say they miss Onana

I think it was probably a reaction to the KDH repeatedly pushed forward issue, perhaps an Onana type might make the blend in the middle that more effective.

 

[Toffeelover]

i have said before I am not a Moyes fan. Problem is who could we attract to replace him and is good enough ?

Still look back, he could not get out of the door fast enough when Man U came knocking.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I am happy he made those comments, a nice clear reminder of why I got very tired of him in his last spell. He quickly cancelled out the surprising positivity from the last game.

IMHO he puts himself and his own reputation first. That comment is to cover himself and has no other value.

Honesty it isn't, and I think anybody claiming that are unfortunately clinging too hard to the Moyes comfort blanket and are scared to let go.

I want the fresh start I thought the stadium would be. I've seen all this before.

As have I.

..................Wright
Pistone Yobo Stubbs Unsworth
Watson Linderoth Pembridge Naysmith
...........Rooney Radzinski

That side drew at Charlton 2-2 in August 2003. Square pegs in round holes all over the show.

 

[Bluewolf]

Jesus christ this is embarrassing.

I keep saying this. We are in a transitional season.

We are going to have games like yesterday, like united and like Fulham. The team isnt ready for Europe or pushing for the top half of the table.

This season is all about building foundations, not worrying about relegation and looking to push on next season.

So these results this season are expected for me.

Were not going to do anything till we get in two rapid attacking fullbacks and bring in alot more pace. Yesterday watching one of our quickest players in barry getting legged by dan burn shows the absolute lack of pace in this side.

Literally all 4 of their goals yesterday came from having pace.

You could tell how terrified we were of it. If any for their players looked at us we were passing it back as fast as possible.

There was one point where we had the ball on the edge of their box and within 3 lazy presses by their players resulted in us being on the edge of our box.

I honestly dont think our attack and midfield is actually that bad but our defence is a backs against the wall defend for your life in the 18 yard box defence. We'll never be anything more then that if we dont improve on them.

 

[kimonthemac_efc]

I think it was probably a reaction to the KDH repeatedly pushed forward issue, perhaps an Onana type might make the blend in the middle that more effective.

Fair enough Rita but I feel Onana's term with us wasn't as good as people make it out to be. He was a superb lad but his playing style just didn't suit what our managers at the time went for. We got a good fee for him and I hope he is enjoying himself at Villa.

 

[Quadvod]

Doesn’t help himself with silly arse comments like that. Such a drop off in performance levels from Monday was unacceptable and hopefully the dressing room discussion was a lot more pointed. The defending was pathetic and my pet hate of lads slipping over all the time as they haven’t put the right studs in reared it’s ugly head - Barry/ndiaye sic.

Off to our favourite stomping ground on the south coast Tuesday - brilliant

 

[davek]

Jesus christ this is embarrassing.

I keep saying this. We are in a transitional season.

We are going to have games like yesterday, like united and like Fulham. The team isnt ready for Europe or pushing for the top half of the table.

This season is all about building foundations, not worrying about relegation and looking to push on next season.

So these results this season are expected for me.

Were not going to do anything till we get in two rapid attacking fullbacks and bring in alot more pace. Yesterday watching one of our quickest players in barry getting legged by dan burn shows the absolute lack of pace in this side.

Literally all 4 of their goals yesterday came from having pace.

You could tell how terrified we were of it. If any for their players looked at us we were passing it back as fast as possible.

There was one point where we had the ball on the edge of their box and within 3 lazy presses by their players resulted in us being on the edge of our box.

I honestly dont think our attack and midfield is actually that bad but our defence is a backs against the wall defend for your life in the 18 yard box defence. We'll never be anything more then that if we dont improve on them.

Maybe we should have secured pace in the summer that we just spent £110M in?