Of course not. Her name’s Siri.
'Siri'ously?
You're right he isnt going anywhere, so maybe us fans take some financial 'stability' ourselves and dont go the game or buy any over priced crap from the new ground.
If they give him a new contract extension I would seriously consider calling it a day.
I definitely agree but sadly I can't see it happening. I keep saying that I'm giving my ST up (and I mean it whenever I say it) but come crunch time, I always cave. I don't buy anything from the club these days outside of match tickets and even with small gesture I'm likely very much in the minority. Again this goes back to what I said in the TFG thread. We need collective action but half our fanbase are quite happy with the position we're in and will attack anyone who thinks differently. These idiots think any form of protest is "kopite behaviour" and would probably spend double what they normally do just to make up for those of us not spending, all so they can play at being the super fan.
A top 10 finish would be progress, at least in league position and would be a good starting point for a new manager. The worry would be what a new manager inherits in terms of squad.
The fans can make a change but it has to be collective, but you will get fans who are just happy to be going the game as it been their ritual for 30-40 odd years.
Given the choice between finishing 15th and guaranteeing that Moyes will go, or getting 10th and running the risk of him getting another season based on that. I'd sooner take 15th and be done with him. Hell, I'd take 15th over us nicking a Europa spot and him staying on. The damage he's doing to the club can't be overstated. He's a Kenwright avatar dragging us down with his negativity and losers mindset.
Agree here. You're almost certainly right. My q is why are you right?
We don’t though, we’re fans. We’re allowed to dream. It’s the highly paid people in power at the club that need to measure stuff. This modern trend of chastising the fan base for wanting better is absolutely ridiculous, clubs will generally take zero notice of fans anyway. If they want us to share in the responsibility/decision making then we’re surely entitled to a share of performance bonuses when targets are met. Evertonians need to throw off the shackles of mediocrity, even if it means getting it wrong occasionally and getting mocked on forums. We’re Everton, standing still should never be accepted
The problem comes when you get the managerial appointment wrong. Moyes out bit who in? A lot of the fan base are calling for a more positive approach playing on the front foot rather than setting up to get a clean sheet and hoping to pinch a winner.
Rather than asking fans who they want to appoint as manager we should be asking our highly paid sporting directors to decide what their actual aims are for this club, and how they plan to achieve them. It doesn't have to be 'positive' football as much as I'm tired of us being one of the worst watches in the league, Glasner and others are certainly not maverick attacking dynamos but they are more modern and have an approach that suits the game in a way Moyes, who I believe has yet to be informed that he actually is able to use five subs in a game, do not.The problem comes when you get the managerial appointment wrong. Moyes out bit who in? A lot of the fan base are calling for a more positive approach playing on the front foot rather than setting up to get a clean sheet and hoping to pinch a winner.
Maybe we need some Angeball? I mean who wouldn't want a start to next season like this...
After managing Tottenham to an unbeaten start to the 2023–24 season with two wins and a draw in his first three matches, Postecoglou received the Premier League Manager of the Month award for August, becoming the first manager since David Wagner to win the award in his first month in the division. On 24 September, Postecoglou became the first Tottenham manager to earn points from Arsenal away at the Emirates Stadium in four years since Pochettino, after the North London derby ended in a 2–2 draw. After continuing Tottenham Hotspur's unbeaten streak for a second month, Postecoglou was nominated for the Premier League Manager of the Month award for September, eventually winning it and becoming the first ever manager to win the award in each of his first two months in the competition.
On 1 October, Postecoglou guided Spurs to their first victory against Liverpool in five years, following a 2–1 win at home. On 23 October, Postecoglou achieved his seventh victory in his ninth league game, following a 2–0 win over Fulham at home.He broke the record for most points earned by a Premier League manager in their first nine games, with his side accumulating 23 points and overtaking the 22 achieved by Guus Hiddink from Chelsea in the 2008–09 season. Postecoglou guided Tottenham to three consecutive wins and the league's top spot in October, leading him to be named Manager of the Month for a third consecutive time. In doing so, Postecoglou became the first manager to win the award for the first three months of a single season.
Oh wait.
Again, that’s not the fans job. Brentford, Southampton, Brighton and loads of other clubs have made cracking appointments over the years of managers that EFC wouldn’t have even known existed. We tend to lean heavily on agents that we’ve mutually “beneficial” relationships with i suspect. Why Ange? There is a middle ground between ange and davey, the problem is we’ve been conditioned to fear ambition. Again we’re Everton, standing still should never be accepted, davey will only ever want to paddle around in the shallow end, doesn’t make him a bad manager but it should never be acceptable for a club with our history
