2025/26 David Moyes

[Timbucktoo]

Not convinced thats the answer some reckon it to be. Been through all this with previous lot going out and getting the next shiny thing Martinez Sliva Koamen, all abject failures.

At least with someone completely new coming in we have the start of next season to hope we`ll do better, might even stretch till the middle of the next season. When Moyes came back a lot of us kind of knew that the dull boring times were only around the corner, even if he gave us a lift in the first couple of months. We`ve offloaded our non playing captain of a couple of seasons, now part ways with the missmanager and thing can only improve.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

At least with someone completely new coming in we have the start of next season to hope we`ll do better, might even stretch till the middle of the next season. When Moyes came back a lot of us kind of knew that the dull boring times were only around the corner, even if he gave us a lift in the first couple of months. We`ve offloaded our non playing captain of a couple of seasons, now part ways with the missmanager and thing can only improve.

If you know your history new shiny things just don't improve... Its not simply linear situation.

 

[Aries]

A fair point and a genuine concern.

 

[Drico]

Not convinced thats the answer some reckon it to be. Been through all this with previous lot going out and getting the next shiny thing Martinez Sliva Koamen, all abject failures.

There is always a risk. What we do know, however, is there is no future with Moyes. We have an obligation to change.

 

[Nymzee]

A fair point and a genuine concern.

West Ham have had plenty of time after sacking Moyes to sort themselves out.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Are the media actually going to call him out for the ridiculous I don't understand how they are frustrated comments

That's about as disrespectful as I've heard in a long time.

When he said that on Sunday the reporter just went on to his next question.

 

[Harryflashman]

I was annoyed before I saw the press conference, it fair to say it hasn’t helped my mood .

 

[Look to the future]

Summer clear out must start with the manager first.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Not convinced thats the answer some reckon it to be. Been through all this with previous lot going out and getting the next shiny thing Martinez Sliva Koamen, all abject failures.

So is Moyes .
Success isn’t defined by surviving, that’s just slow motion failure.
Martinez in his first season matched Moyes but did it by playing attacking exhilarating and intelligent football.
Silva also coached better football , and I would have preferred we had held our nerve with him.
We have seen enough of Moyes to be able to predict how next season will unfold with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
It will be much the same as this season, the football will continue to be poor overall and our finishing position will be around mid table.
For the price of admission now , we should expect better than continuing irrelevance.

 

[toffeeblue9]

25% win ratio in the last 20 games!!!

That is not a poor end to the season. That's half of the season.

That's not stability, that's relegation form.

Paradoxically the thing that people believe will help avoid relegation may end up guaranteeing it.

The Moyes Paradox.

I wouldn't go that far. I think Moyes guarantees that won't happen.

I expected a season of inconsistency and ultimately thought we'd be mid-table but not quite getting into Europe.

Essentially we've finished the absolute bottom end of what my expectations were and that's largely because of the pathetic form we've had since Chelsea. No wins in the last 7 games, losing 4 of them. We limped to the end and we ended up finishing 4 points off Europe, 5 points off a Europa League spot.

If someone said to me before the season began that we'd finish 4 points off a European spot, I'd probably have thought that wasn't a bad outcome but I think it's the way that it's worked out which is sticking in the throat - that last 7 games has everyone going into the summer in a negative mindset.

I highly doubt we will be parting ways with Moyes this summer, but we'd now need to do something fairly spectacular next season for me to entertain any arguments about keeping him longer.

 

[Drico]

If your the owner, and your getting called out by Moyes for wanting more players, after way he used the squad and making less subs than any other team (Think it was) - Your getting rid. He's has chance to change team, play different ways etc. But wants to always use same players. Not forgetting he is basically not blaming himself for anything while passing the buck

It's tin-eared arrogant entitlement, isn't it? What a lack of self-awareness.

I'd be amazed if there wasn't serious friction between Moyes and the hierarchy. They spend money, he doesn't play what was bought, he blows Europe and then calls them out on ambition.

I dunno. You'd want to feel like you have these people over a barrel when behaving like this. That might have been the case in his eyes 16 months ago, but it really isn't the case today.

The question facing the club today is: "Do we need David Moyes?"

While I don't believe there was ever an affirmative answer to that question, I suspect the club felt there was when Dyche bailed out. I doubt their answer has remained the same. If it has, they're asleep at the wheel. Maybe Moyes senses that too...because he's playing a risky game otherwise. Or maybe, he's looking for a pay-off and has enough. Because there's nothing left in him as a manager way past his sell-by date.

 

[widnesblue]

Sunderland got Europa League, they won the championship play off last season, Moyes and Everton fluffed it.
We have a transfer committee now not a mangers vs board thing

Moyes is on the transfer committee and has final say on players. We could have signed the LB on loan who went to Bournemouth but Moyes didn’t want him so they never took it further.

100% they couldn’t agree on the RB in January. Moyes wanted the lad who went to Juventus on loan. The board never and they were butting heads over it.

 

[Tin-Tin]

A fair point and a genuine concern.

Its obvious he is the here and now, he's no interest in developing players for the next 2-3 years when he kniws he probably wont be here. We already have an ageing team, add the Moyes type signjngs of Souck/Bowen/Stones etc and its a quick fix on big wages wich punishes us long term.

 

[TrachyBlue]

Not convinced thats the answer some reckon it to be. Been through all this with previous lot going out and getting the next shiny thing Martinez Sliva Koamen, all abject failures.

Moyes is an abject failure.

 

[kenada_blue]

A fair point and a genuine concern.

Dont think thats entirely true. They got in Lopetegui who, lets faces it we all think is better than Moyes, under the fallacy that he'll have funds. He didn't get them and left.

Brought in Potter who again couldn't attract or got players in to play his style which didn't fit the squad he had.

Then got Nuno in very late to change things.

Fundamentally Moyes may have left a squad of a certain age but the club never backed the manager that came after.