2025/26 David Moyes

Top 10 Premier League Points For Managers
  1. Sir Alex Ferguson — 1,752
  2. Arsène Wenger — 1,624
  3. David Moyes — 1,065+
  4. Harry Redknapp — 876
  5. Pep Guardiola — 855+
  6. José Mourinho — 735
  7. Jürgen Klopp — 705
  8. Sam Allardyce — 567
  9. Martin O’Neill — 542
  10. Rafael Benítez — 533
moyes will have managed the most premier league matches ever if he remains for another 2 seasons

Wenger - 828
Sir Alex - 810
Moyes - 752
 
It's not though, sorry if you watch a lot of football I don't understand how you can compare the current career trajectory of Iraola and Glasner to the the coaches that we've appointed in the past.

Glasner delivered Palace their first trophy and is on track to deliver their second despite being off at the end of the season. How is wanting that manager just being excited by a foreign name? There has to be some level of objectivity, suggesting that no one can possibly tell the true quality of any prospective manager whatsoever is just nonsense.

Moyes won a trophy....
 
11 years, 0 trophies.

In a period when Wigan, Portsmouth, Middlesbrough, Blackburn were winning pots.

I am not happy with my expectations being dampened. For years we've been a basket case and I mean 25 years, not 10.

So im not happy making up the numbers.

I do genuinely think you might be Moyes though. Fair play for not standing down.
With respect I disagree that you can use cup wins, to judge a manager. Benitez was great in Champions League for RS, because he got a rigged draw for group stages, then usual 2nd legs at Anfield. As soon as he had to go to Chelsea in 2nd legs he failed. Then when they got a tough group in his last season didn't even make it out of group stage. With Moyes his continual failure bar 2009 to do anything in a cup competition is embarrasing. Reading 2011, Wigan 2013, Oldham 2008. With Moyes his history in league and cup, tells you he can't take you to that next level. However I think he's worse than 1st spell, we could of easily got at vert least Europa League this season. His refusal to play certain players, while continually playing underperforming players is unforgivable.
 
Moyes won a trophy....
No domestic trophy in how many years managing in England? Glasner beat City in the cup final.

I'm not one of those that would say I have no interest in conference league, think its our best shot at actually winning something for the first time in my life. But let's be honest, not really the same pedigree as winning the Europa league and the FA Cup. Not to mention Glasner has done that in the first 10 years of his career and looks set to add another European trophy on top of that. Moyes' one conference league win in his long long career pales in comparison imo.
 
No domestic trophy in how many years managing in England? Glasner beat City in the cup final.

I'm not one of those that would say I have no interest in conference league, think its our best shot at actually winning something for the first time in my life. But let's be honest, not really the same pedigree as winning the Europa league and the FA Cup. Not to mention Glasner has done that in the first 10 years of his career and looks set to add another European trophy on top of that. Moyes' one conference league win in his long long career pales in comparison imo.

So its not really trophies you want, its the trophies YOU like at any given time....
 
More I think about this, the more I say a change sooner rather than later is critical. Moyes has now regressed to full on Moyes 0.1 mode. All those familiar signs are there. Poor team selection. Sending out the same old crocks week on week to then watch them fall exhausted. Terrible timing for substitutions. Younger players left to rot on the bench .. and grow increasingly disgruntled. Arsey and/or ambivalent in pressers. Talking of (blaming) the players as 'them'. No real in-game tactical interventions. Dithering Dave is back.

If Moyes stays on, even for another year, he will continue on this course and his first port of call will be the older 'wiser' end of the transfer market. Roll up Soucek, Bowen, Stones, White etc. Long term deals which they will be 'grateful to the Gaffer' for. Along the way, a number of younger players start to want out and get to make the move. Then comes the inevitable decline and we stumble towards another relegation scrap or lower league happy dissatisfaction. The end of which Moyes makes his exit and a new manager, if we can find one, is very much lower calibre. Faced with the prospect of rehabilitating an aging squad, most understandably pass.

Act NOW whilst alternative ways forward exist.
If the news today is to believed it's not happening though unfortunately.

Massively soured me on TFG whereas previously I had been open to see what they might do.

Had previously thought about trying to get a season ticket this season... lol am I fck spending all that to watch this team.
 
So its not really trophies you want, its the trophies YOU like at any given time....
Come on...

I literally said I would be very happy with conference league? I'm just not going to pretend like it isn't more impressive to have won Europa and league and the FA Cup in the space of a few years because it obviously is.

Don't think its hard to get what I'm saying. You come up against better teams in Europa league than you do in Conference League. Arguably the FA Cup is harder to win than both over the last decade because you have to beat City in the final. But even if you want to ignore all of that, Glasner has won more trophies than Moyes has in less than half the time managing.

Starting to feel like you just specifically don't want a foreign manager 😂
 
He needs to be imaginative in the summer window or I suspect fan pressure will explode
Agree, if he does pursue a player like Delap there will be huge pressure on him to hit the ground running. Too many older/PL experience types won't go down well, it's going to be interesting over the summer. Its not just the signings we need to have more purpose next season in games, we have zero style or identity atm.
 

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