2025/26 David Moyes

The question for me is, Are the players, or the core of them, still with him?

The first 11 will be because they’re guaranteed to play every week. The young players might not be but the club will move them on. Kinnear will be polling Tarkowski Keane Gana McNeil Garner KDH and they’ll all be saying what a great gaffer he is because they’re playing every week.
 
You're too soft-hearted. I was downhearted the day he returned. Can't say he has pleasantly surprised me beyond the previous March...
I didn't want him back at all. I wanted him gone in his last couple of seasons first time around. But he won me over mainly thanks to Beto having a Ronaldo turn of form, felt a bit like when Moyes first took us over from Smith and the Johnson days. Alas, the candle burned a lot quicker this time around.
 
We’ll bring in Delap and someone like Chilwell, and not change any of the rest of the starting 11 and throw in the exact same season we’ve just done when Delap, the new left back, and Branthwaite all get injured again.
Personally I like Delap and think there's a player in there that would suit the mid-table club we are (but not a player that would cut the mustard at the top level). But I don't see any world in which we sign him. He's already said multiple times he wants to stay at CFC, he probably likes the London life, probably is on a wedge far more than we could pay, and has already rejected us once or twice. I don't doubt we'll make 6 or 7 squad signings in the summer, but I wouldn't expect major changes to the starting 11 wherever possible.
 
I didn't want him back at all. I wanted him gone in his last couple of seasons first time around. But he won me over mainly thanks to Beto having a Ronaldo turn of form, felt a bit like when Moyes first took us over from Smith and the Johnson days. Alas, the candle burned a lot quicker this time around.
I'll be honest. I'd have shaken his hand on a job well done the day we beat Leicester 4-0 in February 2025. He got us safe in a few weeks. There were no more worlds to conquer for the Moyesiah, 61.

Decency demanded we let him see the season out. But I'd have ruthlessly cut ties last May. Sadly, our competent professionals still hadn't their feet under the table. Any focus was clearly on Roma. We wasted another year and 120m.
 
Always been pro Moyes since his first spell. Saw the team for today and, he needs to go. Been picking the same players for last 5 or 6 games and he's expecting a different outcome. Madness. Feels the same as Dyche's last hours. No plan A, therefore no plan B. If anything, to be fair to Dyche, Moyes has had a stronger bench and he's done nothing with it. He's done for me
 
Personally I like Delap and think there's a player in there that would suit the mid-table club we are (but not a player that would cut the mustard at the top level). But I don't see any world in which we sign him. He's already said multiple times he wants to stay at CFC, he probably likes the London life, probably is on a wedge far more than we could pay, and has already rejected us once or twice. I don't doubt we'll make 6 or 7 squad signings in the summer, but I wouldn't expect major changes to the starting 11 wherever possible.

We have to make major changes to the starting 11.

We can’t just keep playing the same players.

The team needs ripping up.
 
The first 11 will be because they’re guaranteed to play every week. The young players might not be but the club will move them on. Kinnear will be polling Tarkowski Keane Gana McNeil Garner KDH and they’ll all be saying what a great gaffer he is because they’re playing every week.
Yes, but even those 11 seemed apathetic and resigned. Lacking motivation. I think the atmosphere in the locker room broke down ar some point
 
I'll be honest. I'd have shaken his hand on a job well done the day we beat Leicester 4-0 in February 2025. He got us safe in a few weeks. There were no more worlds to conquer for the Moyesiah, 61.

Decency demanded we let him see the season out. But I'd have ruthlessly cut ties last May. Sadly, our competent professionals still hadn't their feet in the door. Any focus was clearly on Roma. We wasted another year and 120m.
Agree that is was only ever going to end badly.

I'm not convinced we've wasted 120mil though. I think we've bought talented young players that will bare fruit. They need a better gardener.
 
The only thing that will give me some joy at the end of this season now is if he gets sacked. Such a great opportunity wasted and i would absolutely dread another season of prehistoric tactics and predictable 70th minute subs that make you worse. Enough is enough for me. Really done my head in the last few months. Other than Chelsea we have been shocking.
 
Agree that is was only ever going to end badly.

I'm not convinced we've wasted 120mil though. I think we've bought talented young players that will bare fruit. They need a better gardener.
Yes, I think you are absolutely correct in that. Whether Dibling ever amounts to anything or not, I think we at least owe it to ourselves to see if that little weed can grow with a horticulturalist rather than the agriculturalist currently tending the garden.

"O stony grey soil of Monaghan, the laugh from my love you thieved; You took the gay child of my passion and gave me your clod-conceived."
 
We have to make major changes to the starting 11.

We can’t just keep playing the same players.

The team needs ripping up.
Time will tell.

Right now, I'd wager you the starting 11 for the first game next season will be not a million miles off the starting 11 we currently see.

All depends on what the expectation from the ownership is. If I'm TFG and I'm delighted with a no-drama, no-worry, perfectly comfortable 10th-ish place finish in the increasingly richest league in the world then there is zero need whatsoever for 'major changes'.

If anything, its the opposite: stability under Moyes, 2/3/4 key additions to the first team, 2/3/4 squad players maybe, 2/3/4 moving on in the window as normal at any club etc etc etc. Go again, try to go one better if we can, no biggie if we can't. You get the picture.
 
I agree with the squad management in terms of the back up players being used
but I'd be seriously worried if our starters were exhausted. Compare the minutes our players have had this season to someone like Rice at Arsenal. We should still have energy to burn.
Oh I agree, they’ve hardly played compared to other clubs. I think Ndiaye looks badly out of gas, and you could possibly put Garner in that box too. His effort has remained high but his impact has dipped.

All of the back four are the same, though in fairness they are either old, out of position or the worst left back in the league. So fatigue may not be the deciding factor there.
 
There’ll just be no excitement at the start of next season. Everyone knows how it will go. If we start away at a newly promoted team you could out your mortgage on us dropping points immediately.
League Cup elimination by mid-October... FA Cup by end of January... Soucek rumours by deadline day...

"Compelling."
 
There’ll just be no excitement at the start of next season. Everyone knows how it will go. If we start away at a newly promoted team you could out your mortgage on us dropping points immediately.

We won't have finished our recruitment by the opening day. I'll guarantee you that.

We might have to play a right footed best central midfielder at left back or something like that.
 

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