Yeah of course every team makes mistakes and I agree even pep can't stop that.
But Moyes has sent us into the defining games of our season with Tarks and Keane partnered at centre back and thats ultimately cost us Europe. Everyone knows they can't work together. You and me both have seen enough to know that, Moyes has seen enough to know that. That is on Moyes.
We are only 2 points behind Brentford, is that not competing with them?Great is probably over stating it, but it’s certainly good enough to have (genuinely) competed against the Brentford’s and Brighton’s imho.
So do you give Moyes praise for last season getting us away from relegation or was it the players?
Struggle to see how I've said that at all really. I've just said to Matty that the point of the forum is to debate and disagree.….ah, so we don’t post anything in here he says or discuss anything he says because everybody has a fixed view.
Bit of a pointless thread then unless we all just want to join the anti-Moyes camp and agree with each other![]()
Not that much, Dyche is one of the worst managers to grace the league and Moyes just restored us to where any run of the mill coach would have had it.So do you give Moyes praise for last season getting us away from relegation or was it the players?
Their manager was a set piece coach this time last year, the club lost its best 3 players in the summer and we have a manager with 20 odd years experience.We are only 2 points behind Brentford, is that not competing with them?
I will take it Matty and happily make peacei agree with this bit ONLY
that’s all your getting
With all due respect Eggs, if you think that they've been a decent partnership then I think we're too far apart in our experiences of reality to have any meaningful dialogue, so I bid you good day sir….i think they’ve largely been a decent partnership. Funny nobody talks about the chances Ndiaye and KDH have missed in critical games on the run-in. Also, Moyes has really only had one window, he’s got us moving in the right direction.
Some teams over perform and some teams underperform. Newcastle should be clear of us but they aren’t. So should Chelsea.Their manager was aset piece coach this time last year, the club lost its best 3 players in the summer and we have a manager with 20 odd years experience.
We should be not competing with Brentford we should be clear of them.
So do you give Moyes praise for last season getting us away from relegation or was it the players?
Some teams over perform and some teams underperform. Newcastle should be clear of us but they aren’t. So should Chelsea.
Their manager was a set piece coach this time last year, the club lost its best 3 players in the summer and we have a manager with 20 odd years experience.
We should be not competing with Brentford we should be clear of them.
Conceding last minute is not his fault either.No, that was clearly all on Moyesiah.
If we score off a corner, all on Moyes. If we concede, all on the players.
2 random dates? That just comes across as a weak reasoned cheap shot. If you think it’s completely irrelevant that Moyes has more points in the last 16 months than Iriola, who we’d all take, then there’s simply no reasoning or debating with you. You’ve got it in for Moyes, won’t acknowledge he’s done it with worse players than Iriola has had at his disposal. It’s all agenda driven nonsense without reasoning or facts.Well apparently you missed the memo that noone gives a sh$t how many points any manager gets between two random dates...it is how many points you have in the league, in the season your playing...end of.
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